Guest martinsa Posted September 16, 2008 Report Posted September 16, 2008 Hmm... Really Interesting.. When my battery is reported as flat, I will try a soft reset. Sounds like they DO have an issues detecting how much power is left... as this isn't apparent in other ROMs, sounds like Flashing to a good ROM would help. Think I will try a Hard Reset (Install my apps) and test again! Interestingly today, I have been using my device lots... and the battery drain is the same as yesterday, when it was light usage! Cheers!
Guest Geronymous Posted September 16, 2008 Report Posted September 16, 2008 Anyone else having really random battery performance with their Omnia? I've been running HH3 for about a week and my battery levels seem all over the place. Sometimes I leave it charging until it's showing 100%, leave it unplugged all night and when I wake up it's still at 100%. Other nights it's at 100% and then in the morning it's dropped to 40%, even though it's not been touched at all. Wifi and Bluetooth are switched off. Other times it's showing it fully charged and when I unplug it, it drops to 90% straight away. Would this be a problem with the HH3 ROM or do you reckon I've got a duff phone? EDIT: I using an unbranded Orange phone I have EXACTLY the same problem with DXHH3... I did hard-reset after flashing, so that does not seem to help. What I will try is the suggested loading fully and draining fully... I hope that works... ;)
Guest Quist09 Posted September 17, 2008 Report Posted September 17, 2008 I'm in the same boat as all of you. I initially had the DXGH4 ROM on the device and the battery was stellar for a WM device. But I missed the haptic feedback and installed the reconstructed DXHH1 PDA ROM. The battery was still really good, starting from 100% at 8-9 am to about 40% at 2 am that night with heavy usage. With that combination, I often ignored the low battery warning and continued surfing without being able to force a shutdown. Then I upgraded to the leaked official DXHH3 (PDA and radio) with several hardresets after upgrade. Within the 2-3 hours it took me to reload my software and repopulate my storage, the device had gone from 100% to 60-50%. Panic. Installed the XXGH5 radio ROM, this time without a hardreset. Battery life didn't appear to improve. I even forced a shutdown and then recharged, but didn't think to try a softreset after the shut down. I'm wondering if the roms after GH4 started forcing shut-downs when the battery meter hit 5% or less, regardless of how much of a charge there still was (overweighting the power consumption curve in the % estimation). I'm loath to reflash so I'll try to force it to shutdown, softreset until it won't restart and recharge and see what it looks like.
Guest mj_blue Posted September 17, 2008 Report Posted September 17, 2008 I have now been through 3 Drains until it shuts down, charge to full capacity ,then use (including trying soft-resets when it shuts down) in just over 36 hours ! it still doesn't seem to solve my problem. I am still on the vanilla T-Mo Rom but will try a hard reset today and see if that improves things. I've never had a device that shuts down overnight unless it is already at 'Critical' battery when I g to bed.. This was at 20% last night and nothing again this morning.. I think this is going to go back to T-mo as its unuseable unless they can sort out the ROM issues
Guest martinsa Posted September 18, 2008 Report Posted September 18, 2008 Well, having done a number of fully charge with mains adapter, and fully discharge, my battery life is still the same... really bad, doesn’t last a work day! Enabling the Power save mode seems to have made no difference…. Therefore, I think its ROM flash time… but I am concerned, as some people have reported battery life for them was worse with HH3… But I Expect my battery life really cant get any worse!!! What is the current recommended ROM to go for HH3? HG5?.... any recommendations welcome, as different people seem to get really different battery life from the same ROM! (My Omnia is a t-mobile one currently running PDA : i900XXHH7/BOHH5, PHONE : i900BOHH2)
Guest lentini Posted September 18, 2008 Report Posted September 18, 2008 Well after my recent attempts at reflashing, Hard-restting, full drain and recharge, my battery is STILL giving crap performance. I went to bed last night, leaving my phone with 100% capacity, checked it this morning and it was down to 50%. Looks like I'm sending it back ;)
Guest Geronymous Posted September 18, 2008 Report Posted September 18, 2008 (edited) Unfortunately I also need to report bad news... I fully loaded my Omnia on Tuesday evening. Then it was on standby the whole night but with radios (phone, BT, wifi) off. In the morning still at 100%. Then a full day of "normal use" meaning 1-2 calls, emails checking automatically every half hour, 1.5 hours paired with headset, 45 minutes A2DP. Around 18:00 I think battery level was still ok, around 80% maybe. But after that it started dropping very quickly, to 60%, 40%, 10%, the radio (phone) switched off, and it "died". Then I thought: ok, now softreset to get the real battery level... but nothing happened... the battery was REALLY empty. I had to plug it back in to be able to switch it on, and it still showed 10%... so that was really the battery level, not a problem with the battery level indicator! :wacko: Means max 24 hours of usage... Anyway, I will give the full drain another try and then hope for an improved ROM... ;) Edited September 18, 2008 by Geronymous
Guest msjfb Posted September 18, 2008 Report Posted September 18, 2008 I would caution to stay away from multiple full discharges of the battery. Lithium-ion batteries do not have a 'memory' as in the older NiCad batteries, and fully discharging them below a certain level is actually harmful to lithium-ion batteries. However, I found an interesting article that talks about a 'digital' memory that explains the seemingly random battery level readings. Here it is: http://www.batteryuniversity.com/parttwo-34.htm Seems like a full device discharge, i.e letting the device shut itself off, is a way to keep the battery level evaluation accurate. But I do agree that the G4 ROM had better power management than the HH3 ROM.
Guest Ingvarr Posted September 18, 2008 Report Posted September 18, 2008 (edited) I would caution to stay away from multiple full discharges of the battery. Lithium-ion batteries do not have a 'memory' as in the older NiCad batteries, and fully discharging them below a certain level is actually harmful to lithium-ion batteries. However, I found an interesting article that talks about a 'digital' memory that explains the seemingly random battery level readings. Here it is: http://www.batteryuniversity.com/parttwo-34.htm Seems like a full device discharge, i.e letting the device shut itself off, is a way to keep the battery level evaluation accurate. But I do agree that the G4 ROM had better power management than the HH3 ROM. The point of discharging Li-Ion is not preventing memory effect, but to properly calibrate monitoring software to make battery capacity estimation provide correct numbers. There seem to be something clearly wrong with Samsung battery monitoring software. Except somewhat "jumpy" battery indicator I myself can not complain about actual battery life. With usual usage I get 2 solid days of usage, ROM HH3. Edited September 18, 2008 by Ingvarr
Guest mediavue Posted September 18, 2008 Report Posted September 18, 2008 The point of discharging Li-Ion is not preventing memory effect, but to properly calibrate monitoring software to make battery capacity estimation provide correct numbers. There seem to be something clearly wrong with Samsung battery monitoring software. Except somewhat "jumpy" battery indicator I myself can not complain about actual battery life. With usual usage I get 2 solid days of usage, ROM HH3. Do you use push email? I am wondering if push email is the big "battery drainer".......... ? I use push email and battery only just lasts a day. Tried on two different Omnias...... Many different Roms.....
Guest Ingvarr Posted September 18, 2008 Report Posted September 18, 2008 I neither use push email nor I leave data connection on. This known to drain battery, regardless of device brand.
Guest FutureDirt Posted September 18, 2008 Report Posted September 18, 2008 Having PUSH email on will definately drain your battery alot faster then it would if you set activesync to manual. I initially had battery issues with my Omnia but after fully charging till the power light goes green and then discharging down to zero it seems much much better. I have however bought a spare battery anyway (£4.99 from some supplier on amazon)!
Guest Monahans Posted September 18, 2008 Report Posted September 18, 2008 Hi, What I noticed is that the battery life is the same with light usage (screen off; no nothing on, except the phone itself, music running) than with wifi and opera. That obviously point on a ROM issue (XXHH9 original german ROM, never flashed). And I really believe that the many little issues in KS20 I got again with the Omnia ... I hate that. Maybe I sell the phone and buy a HTC HD with 3,8" display in November. H.a.n.d. Monahans
Guest Ingvarr Posted September 18, 2008 Report Posted September 18, 2008 If you think that you will be getting even close battery life with touch hd, you are very optimistic ;) ASUS Galaxy7 will be better aim in this respect, ASUS is famous for long battery life of their devices.
Guest lentini Posted September 22, 2008 Report Posted September 22, 2008 Well, it looks like this battery problem was caused by the firmware. Ever since I've upgraded from DXHH3 to DXHI1 everything's been fine ;)
Guest Geronymous Posted September 22, 2008 Report Posted September 22, 2008 Well, it looks like this battery problem was caused by the firmware. Ever since I've upgraded from DXHH3 to DXHI1 everything's been fine ;) Looks that I am experiencing the same improvement... thanks Secany!
Guest the-jackal Posted September 22, 2008 Report Posted September 22, 2008 I am now getting battery issues. Mine ran out last night at about 9pm, this was a pain as I was at work till 11pm. Got home and put it on charge all night untill 7am. its now nearly 4pm and its about to die again. I do not have BT or WiFi on and have sent about 40 texts and thats it. Just done a soft reset and battery has gone up to 2 bars again. I am running PDA: XXHG5/MSHG1 PHONE: XXHG5 Time to upgrade my ROM I think. Was going to do this a while back but decided to wait for UK release. Think I will give it a bash tonight though. What would be the best ROM for my version?
Guest lentini Posted September 22, 2008 Report Posted September 22, 2008 What would be the best ROM for my version? go for the DXHI1 ROM
Guest the-jackal Posted September 23, 2008 Report Posted September 23, 2008 (edited) go for the DXHI1 ROM Got a new battery from Orange last night FOC as they said it must be faulty. Should be here between 9am and 1pm today. I will see how that goes before flashing. ;) Edited September 23, 2008 by the-jackal
Guest lentini Posted September 23, 2008 Report Posted September 23, 2008 Got a new battery from Orange last night FOC as they said it must be faulty. Should be here between 9am and 1pm today. I will see how that goes before flashing. ;) I bought a new battery before I upgraded to HI1, it won't make any difference
Guest c0n3 Posted September 25, 2008 Report Posted September 25, 2008 Currently I'm using the HI1 firmware and seems like my issues are back again ;) Also had issues with HH3 firmware but after a hard reset and complete empty and recharge it was fine Will try the same with this firmware to see how it works out...
Guest Geronymous Posted September 25, 2008 Report Posted September 25, 2008 (edited) Currently I'm using the HI1 firmware and seems like my issues are back again :wacko: Also had issues with HH3 firmware but after a hard reset and complete empty and recharge it was fine Will try the same with this firmware to see how it works out... Could it be one of the applications you have installed? I am not sure yet, but I think that the application I was using for profile management (PhoneAlarm) was somehow making my battery drain quicker... this even with DXHI1. Maybe the fact that I was tracking the data usage with it, maybe the profiles, not sure. I uninstalled it now for testing, and have only lost 20% of battery in a whole day of normal/intensive use. Will keep testing. Or maybe the reason for the better battery life is that I upgraded the phone to XXHI2 last night... not sure about that either. ;) EDIT: I reinstalled a new version of PhoneAlarm (2.08), and battery life does NOT seem to be affected... good news! Edited September 28, 2008 by Geronymous
Guest mj_blue Posted September 25, 2008 Report Posted September 25, 2008 Currently I'm using the HI1 firmware and seems like my issues are back again ;) Also had issues with HH3 firmware but after a hard reset and complete empty and recharge it was fine Will try the same with this firmware to see how it works out... I had these issues and have upgraded to HI1 and this isn ow much much better.. My Omnia is still at 60% since charging this morning after day or normal to heavy use. I haven't re-installed all my apps yet but am still checking mail regularly, listening to music using A2DP and browsing so may gradually add the apps and see if it was one specific app that was killing the battery fingers crossed
Guest M Azmin Ishak Posted September 26, 2008 Report Posted September 26, 2008 My story is quite interesting, Initially I was on HH1 both the PDA and Phone. I then upgraded to HI1 but during the flashing, it stucked after completing the PDa flashing and really really made me sweating! I have no choice but to unplug it. To my surprise it still works! I ended up having HI1 for PDA and HH1 for Phone. On the battery performance, Right after flashing the new ROM, I hard reset. Now the battery performance is fantastic! Now I am at 40% battery capacity in 24 hours after first charging right after flashing the ROM. Once thing I need to alert about the baterry performance is, make sure you do not enable Auto Download in the Enhanced GPS settings. From my research, if you enable this, the phone will always be in 3G connection which definitely will drain your battery really fast. Also do not enable the HSDPA in the Connection tab....
Guest M Azmin Ishak Posted September 26, 2008 Report Posted September 26, 2008 My story is quite interesting, Initially I was on HH1 both the PDA and Phone. I then upgraded to HI1 but during the flashing, it stucked after completing the PDa flashing and really really made me sweating! I have no choice but to unplug it. To my surprise it still works! I ended up having HI1 for PDA and HH1 for Phone. On the battery performance, Right after flashing the new ROM, I hard reset. Now the battery performance is fantastic! Now I am at 40% battery capacity in 24 hours after first charging right after flashing the ROM. Once thing I need to alert about the baterry performance is, make sure you do not enable Auto Download in the Enhanced GPS settings. From my research, if you enable this, the phone will always be in 3G connection which definitely will drain your battery really fast. Also do not enable the HSDPA in the Connection tab....
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