Don't Buy an Omnia !!!

[Guest bpivk]

Thumbs-downs:

1. USB port location;

2. 8/16 GB graphic mark it could have been placed at the back of the phone

3. Micro-SD location (back and inside of device) it should have been at the side for quick access;

4. Poor screen visibility when outdoors under the sun;

1. I agree standard port would be better

2. This is only on new models. My Omnia doesn't have that but my brother has an Omnia that has the mark.

3. I don't think the cards are hot swapable so you would still have to turn the phone off so this doesn't bother me

4. I agree the screen sucks lemons outdoors on sunlight

[Guest tuisamo]

Don't get me wrong, I love my OMNIA!!!

I don't agree with your argument that those who do not have OMNIA won't read this thread. this is useful for all considering the OMNIA vs other phones.

I personally look at device problems (usually attributable to software incompatibilities and hardware limitations) before buying one. WinMo being WinMo is pretty much the same in all devices.

While most of the points discussed are brought up out of lack of software upgrades/ third party support, I do agree with some points that cannot be/ difficult to tweak:

1) Built in stylus will be good; although i hardly use it. Vs device size

2) Mini-usb is missed

3) Screen visibility under Sunlight not optimal. Vs overall (GREAT) battery performance

4) software keyboard that comes with it takes up too much space. I use touchpal, but no vibration feedback.

5) home screen widgets thing take up too much space. I use TodayAgenda with SPB Pocketplus/ SPB Mobile shell.

CORRECTION for clarity

You're still preaching to the wrong choir. First, it doesn't make sense to come into a forum and tell a group of avid users of a certain device not to buy the device - they've already bought it! Second, almost anyone who hasn't already bought an Omnia is probably not likely to look in this forum before they buy. Third, I have the feeling that the concept of the Omnia was developed with the avid user in mind, meaning that this is NOT a phone for your typical mobile user - it's probably not even a phone for the typical PDA user! Lastly, I won't argue that Samsung's stock offerings are dull, but I wouldn't call them pathetic. Anyone who's willing to fork over several hundred dollars/euros/pounds for a device as flexible as the Omnia is likely to shell out more cash - including time - just to develop the device. If you think I'm wrong, then just ask any other hardcore Omniac with any reasonable amount of time spent on this forum.

And of word of advice to you... the next time you buy a touch screen device, invest a few bucks into some screen guards.

[Guest ronaldb3]

1. I agree standard port would be better

2. This is only on new models. My Omnia doesn't have that but my brother has an Omnia that has the mark.

3. I don't think the cards are hot swapable so you would still have to turn the phone off so this doesn't bother me

4. I agree the screen sucks lemons outdoors on sunlight

I have agreed with most of what you have said eariler. Except on number 3 above.

I have had many PDAs and none where the memory card was hot swapable, so not a concern for me.

Having to open up the device to change a memory card (to backup or for a different card) is just Wrong.

Add to that what you have to do if you have a clear snapon hard case, and it is really Wrong. IMHO.

So I back up the card using USB connection instead of taking it out and putting in in a PC card reader. That works. And with 16g internal memory and 8g card I have divided things up so I don't swap cards very often now.

But the principle is still Wrong.

Ron...

Edited April 25, 2009 by ronaldb3

[Guest bpivk]

Well yes but i look from the bright side. At least there's less places for the dust that resides my room. :excl:

And i have never swaped cards so i agree that this really depends on the way you use your phone.

Edited April 25, 2009 by bpivk

[Guest Emre SUMENGEN]

CORRECTION for clarity

You're still preaching to the wrong choir. First, it doesn't make sense to come into a forum and tell a group of avid users of a certain device not to buy the device - they've already bought it! Second, almost anyone who hasn't already bought an Omnia is probably not likely to look in this forum before they buy. Third, I have the feeling that the concept of the Omnia was developed with the avid user in mind, meaning that this is NOT a phone for your typical mobile user - it's probably not even a phone for the typical PDA user! Lastly, I won't argue that Samsung's stock offerings are dull, but I wouldn't call them pathetic. Anyone who's willing to fork over several hundred dollars/euros/pounds for a device as flexible as the Omnia is likely to shell out more cash - including time - just to develop the device. If you think I'm wrong, then just ask any other hardcore Omniac with any reasonable amount of time spent on this forum.

And of word of advice to you... the next time you buy a touch screen device, invest a few bucks into some screen guards.

First of all, I really can't understand your first two conclusions... I had started looking for information on Omnia 2-3 months BEFORE I bought the device... If these issues were so visual back that day and any other reliable alternative was out there, I would have gone for it.

Seondly, how different is Omnia from the others (pocket pcs and pda's etc.) in terms of being suitable for "avid" users??? It's just a Windows Mobile pda with built-in phone functionality. It's got good hw specs. I must admit (one of the driving forces for me to buy it), but it's not perfect, actually far from it.

The industrial design of the phone COULD BE much better... Placing of the connector is _PATHETIC_ by one word. Lack of a separate audio port, or separate charging/data/audio ports is something Samsung has forgotten to care for, but it would make a good thing better. (You cannot listen to music AND have it charging/connected to your pc at the same time... That sucks big time!) The screen, that is somewhat nice and good-looking, could be better with a harder surface.

So, I really believe we would stop being "fans" of the device and start being "users"... That means accepting weaknesses/flaws and trying to cover those as much as possible.

By the way, the big list on the first message has obviously have mistakes and wrongs. But the main thing is that the complaining user is a Mac user I guess. I really don't know how the phone behaves when connected to a Mac... It's got MS sh*t under the hood :excl: (Which only makes it no good for the very nice hardware)

Edited April 25, 2009 by Emre SUMENGEN

[Guest forelli]

Let's compare what is comparable: Iphone gadget phone and Omnia Winmo are not in the same category, it's not a kumite here. You don't send a featherweight boxer against a heavyweight boxer. It's all about money, once more:

you want an app on your new gadget? Pay for it. You want an upgrade, depending on when you bought your phone or which version you have, pay $10. You want to tweak your gadget? Are you crazy, it's not allowed, anyway we have the killer switch for those who even wanna try. Custom rom? Wait for the DevTeam (respect to them), the software is so complicated that they came up first with a custom rom to unlock it like 6 months after the release of the 3G, which even doesn't deserve its name since it doesn't port a 3G camera for 3G calls...

For sure, our Omnia is not perfect, for those who need to know why we do love our Smartphone, well, look through the Omnia at Modaco forum. It's not perfect hardwarewise, softwarewise, well, it tends to perfection, it's evolving every week, winmo 6.1, winmo 6.5 (21210 release candidate), M2D, spb, wisbar advance etc...

But most of all, we do love our Omnia because, beside being a great Smartphone, it's learning tool: who can say he/she has not learnt anything about tweaking, registry editing, moding in the first month after buying an Omnia? Thanks to the Omnia Community and Special Thanks to the Chefs, the roms Cookers, as I like to call them, the "Usual Suspects": Shokka9, MobileTurk Team, Sector, Koko5800, Qbus, Khuanchai, Passoa, just to name a few, always there to enlight us and show us tips and tricks, and even teaching us (Sztup Y's kitchen: Rom cooking for dummies).

I think we just like this phone because it makes us smarter, unlike the gadget Iphone, IMHO.

I said.

forelli

[Guest Omniaaddicted]

ugh...what's wrong with this guy??

everybody love omnia....this is great phone...

everything can do by omnia...

i think resolution it's omnia failing

[Guest joshua3]

Hi to all Omniacs!

Just got my Omnia last week and generally I'm happy with it. A few not so nice stuffs about the phone are the screen's poor sunlight legibility and the average touch screen performance [my fingers are not happy with the screen's response; hey they're not that big!].

BTW browsing this site, I've seen WinMo 6.5. Mine is only 6.1, should I upgrade now?

Edited April 27, 2009 by joshua3

[Guest forelli]

Hi to all Omniacs!

Just got my Omnia last week and generally I'm happy with it. A few not so nice stuffs about the phone are the screen's poor sunlight legibility and the average touch screen performance [my fingers are not happy with the screen's response; hey they're not that big!].

BTW browsing this site, I've seen WinMo 6.5. Mine is only 6.1, should I upgrade now?

Hi Joshua t(h)ree (sorry for that, as a U2 fan I had to! :D ). Before you upgrade, go to the rom section, and please do inform yourself properly otherwise you could brick your phone and you don't want it, do you? Collect information about the upgrade possibilities, the steps before you upgrade to winmo 6.5, for example if your rom is DXIA5 (PDA), then you can upgrade straight to winmo 6.5. You find this info under Start>Settings>System>Version. You have also to know that there is no phone part anymore in the winmo 6.5 roms (at least in those from the usual suspects: sector, khuanchai, shokka9) the first one initiated the winmo 6.5 project with qbus. Please do read as much as you can about rom upgrade in the forum (the search function is your best friend) and if you are not an advanced user, just use a computer running windows XP because the risk of bricking your phone is higher with an upgrade using Granprix under windows vista (at least this is what I think and I'm not the only one) as using the common XP updater. Good luck, and if you need help, well, the whole community, including myself, is here to help!

forelli

[Guest hitdog042]

Maybe someone can help me out (not a fanboy please)

.

I am a US Verizon customer. Have the Storm right now, do NOT like it. Lot's of issues. I need a decent phone that can get decent email, has a facebook app, and has a decent camera. But also, one that is not impossible to send texts and emails with a finger and not a stylus. I would also need or like a program where one click takes me to stock quotes of stocks I own. So you would think the iPhone made the most sense for me.. so did I, but then I saw ATT's cost and no way am I doing that.

I looked at the Omnia, but it looks like it would be too hard to text and email. I looked at ATT and the iPhone, and about threw up when they told me how much their packages were. My wife wants to stay on Verizon because her family is on there and they give us 10 free numbers to call, so our bill is cheap even with 2 blackberry plans.

Does anyone have any recommendations on what phone i should be looking at, or if they can give me their 2c on their Omnia experience using it without a stylus?

I'm pretty sure there is a facebook app out now for winmo. I don't like my Storm because quite frankly, it's buggy, and besides that, it's too darn big of a phone.

[Guest meabigbaldguy]

Maybe someone can help me out (not a fanboy please)

.

I am a US Verizon customer. Have the Storm right now, do NOT like it. Lot's of issues. I need a decent phone that can get decent email, has a facebook app, and has a decent camera. But also, one that is not impossible to send texts and emails with a finger and not a stylus. I would also need or like a program where one click takes me to stock quotes of stocks I own. So you would think the iPhone made the most sense for me.. so did I, but then I saw ATT's cost and no way am I doing that.

I looked at the Omnia, but it looks like it would be too hard to text and email. I looked at ATT and the iPhone, and about threw up when they told me how much their packages were. My wife wants to stay on Verizon because her family is on there and they give us 10 free numbers to call, so our bill is cheap even with 2 blackberry plans.

Does anyone have any recommendations on what phone i should be looking at, or if they can give me their 2c on their Omnia experience using it without a stylus?

I'm pretty sure there is a facebook app out now for winmo. I don't like my Storm because quite frankly, it's buggy, and besides that, it's too darn big of a phone.

You can try the Omnia still. There is no full screen keyboard, but that can be easily solved with SPB keyboard, which has a great full screen keyboard and additional skins. As far as Facebook, I'm not sure about it because I don't use it, but at least SPB Mobile Shell 3 has something to that extent. The only disadvantage would be all of the watering down that I hear Verizon's done to their Omnia; otherwise the Omnia is a fantastic device.

[Guest rammy121]

folks look at the title of this thread..."don't buy an omnia...this phone", it's not "my iphone is better thanyour omnia ha ha". shouldn't we be showing here the things we find "not nice" about the omnia?

as for charging via usb...it depends on which cable your phone uses. there are SEVERAL!! types. some end in ube (with me it just drains the phone) and bbe, which seems to charge the phone reasonably. why has nobody quoted there cable model number??? probably because the great omnian preachers have their head somewhere... that they're too blind to realise this, they've done less than 0 research on this. as for the "apparent" fact that it charges slowly because it's usb, read other websites, including this one about how lame the pin config is. there is a +5 volt rail that the omnia seems to ignore. read and decide for yourself. if you use a dumb CHARGING cable, it will charge at same speed as the mains charger, so why doesn't the usb DATA cable do the same. ring samsung and ask what is the purpose of the cable, listen to their answer "...it's a data cable and not really meant to chrge the phone". o.k. so it seems as though i spoke to a newbie. and for everybody who swears blind that it charges from the usb cable, drain your phone and then see if it will charge from the usb cable. please, before you omnian preachers jump on your high horses of how great this phone is, check the threads on this site about the usb charging scenario and go to xda devs. there are seasoned veterans there, real gurus who will give the full story of the usb charging cables. at the end of the day, every htc except one, charged from dead using the usb cable and that means ANY USB CABLE. so go figure!! the screen on the omnia reall is POOH!! waste of time! with some apps, you need to modify screen settings by going into certain files (igo8 etc.). why should the omnia be so different here? is there such a great benefit?? before you say "it's a techie phone", sorry that is not what the marketing sayd at schiphol airport, which is where i first say it, in pre-release. they had all of the glamour, half nekedgirls modelling the phone, just like it was as simple to use as a nokia (and basic as). so don;t tell me it's a techy phone. samsung marketed this thing to everybody.

so in summary..

what cables are people using for usb charging?

can you charge from dead via your legendary, god given cables?

should the average joe have to fiddle with file contents to make a simple programme like igo or tomtom work?

can you use you great omnia in sunlight (infact ordinary day light)?

what firmware are you using?

...i'll post the threads i have collected re. usb charging soon.

[Guest zoolie]

Omnia is probably one of the best phones from technical point of view available on the big marked.

It's hard to get a grip of all the functions and you can do so much with it, therefore people that lack knowledge how to handle technical stuff fails, and blame it on the phone.

I'm very happy with my Omnia, I always find something new to do with it, for exemple yesterday I was playin' around for an hour or two with the GPS, really fascinating stuff :D

Also, because of it's windows based OS, you can customize it more than ANY phone with for exemple a symbian plattform.

[Guest rammy121]

http://www.modaco.com/content/i9x0-omnia-h...over-discharge/

http://www.thepocketsolution.com/PSI-46064...arge+Cable.html (never tried them, so don;t know if it's spoof)

http://www.gomadic.com/samsung-omnia-retra...-usb-cable.html (i didn't buy mine from the but mine really charges like a mains charger!)

http://www.amazon.co.uk/EASYi-RETRACTABLE-...4533&sr=8-1

http://www.modaco.com/content/i9x0-omnia-h...ia/#entry917180

http://www.modaco.com/content/i780-i780-mo...with-usb-cable/ (mabe rom/firmware have been updated since)

http://www.modaco.com/content/i9x0-omnia-h...arging-via-usb/

...i hope i've made my point!

[Guest Nagilem]

I've had my omnia for about a month now and love it. My only gripe really is the GPS chip. Moderate (less than an hour) use causes the phone to get very hot (only GPS and phone on - WiFi and BT off). I hope future updates reduces this problem, though I suspect that it may be more a GPS chip design issue rather than software. I'm currently using an i910 with a cooked ROM.

IMHO, everything else mentioned here is pretty minor given the capability of the phone. I love finally having a phone that does more than just one function well.

[Guest 1900hmv]

I got my 8G Omnia 6 months ago.. and well it work great for me. I flashed it many times trying diff cooked ROM and even the ROM i cooked.

Now I'm still still using cooked ROM with M2D and SPB Mobile shell installed..

For me.... I love this phone.. :D

[Guest zoolie]

yes, noticed that the phone got very hot when I forgot to turn off Route66 and had it in my pocket for a while :D

[Guest Pdub73]

I bought my Omni in Italy about 6 months ago and have been battleing with it all that time.

1.) The screen is so soft that even a plastic stylus scratches it. Attaching the included stylus like object will completely destroy it.

2.) The included stylus like object is ridiculous.

3.) The camera closes whenever you turn off the phone making it a three step process to take a picture and impossible to catch any changing event.

4.) The connection for charging the phone is propritary and so picky that the only thing that will charge it is the included adapter so you have to carry it around every where you go.

5.) The data connection is propritary so you have carry another cable everywhere you go and this cable will NOT charge the phone.

6.) Whenever you try to use the scroll bar the phone switches to some whacky zoom mode that it is almost impossible to get out of.

7.) The included navigation software, Route 66, is horrible, no search function, cannot even put in an address. Route 66 refuses to provide updates in .CAB format, I have asked, no begged, and just got rude replies that said I should use Windows which is funny because Route 66 started off as Mac software.

8.) Turning on Bluetooth destroys battery life.

9.) The reset hole is so tiny that it is difficult to find an object that will fit in it when you desperately need to reset it, several times each day.

10.) The Power connector is on the side making cradles and auto mounts pretty useless.

11.) Headphone jack or actually lack thereof.

A Couple of good things:

1.) The LED on the power switch is nice and dim so I can keep the Omnia near my bed and still actually sleep.

2.) The form factor is good but it it would have been nice if it were closer to the iPhone deminsions so we could use some of those great accesories.

Hope the next Android phone has a decent form factor so I can finally get out from under Microsofts insanity.

-j

1) Buy a screen protector...hello!!! and my stylus has never in the least bit damaged my screen...

2) Stylus is stylish...however thats ur opinion

3) its a Phone not a Camera!!! turn off ur phone then everything else should go off with it...

4) Not true I have a 3rd party charger that I paid 4 bucks for and it has a retractable cord works great...

5) The cable DOES charge the phone, just very slowly...oh well

6) are talking about Opera??? just takes a little getting used to...

7) Never heard of Route 66 sorry... VZNav isnt much better but I like it...

8) Oh ur one of those that walks around with ur earpiece in ur ear all day huh? u deserve for battery to die then...

9) The stylish stylus fits...plus I can name at least 3 3rd party programs that have a soft reset function u can do right from the touch screen...

10) cant argue that but is this really a deal breaker???

11) this also is not true, but u do have to plug something in to use headphones, that still is not a deal breaker...

why didn't you just get the Iphone...? its obvious thats what you want...so stop ur belly-aching and run and go buy that childrens phone...

Edited April 29, 2009 by Pdub73

[Guest rappetor]

Actually I changed my HTC Diamond for an Omnia. Mainly because the Diamond was just too slow.

So all of you who are planning on getting a HTC Diamond 2, DON'T! I'd say wait till the end of this year and check out the new devices with the 1.2ghz chips. And start praying NOW to your preferred god that the new Qualcomm chip is better than the ones found in the HTC devices now.

Obviously when reading the first post the biased little devil in me wants to react full fury, but I won't. I have no idea why your experience with the Omnia is so much more different than mine. I could reply to each of the points made, but that still doesn't do any good. Because apparantly that's the poster his experience, and it's quite a shame his experience is so bad.

So! Instead of feeling 'insulted' (for your phone or Samsung, who knows) try to imagine being just as disspointed in a phone like the opening poster is. That would not be nice!

Now obviously we don't know why he got those experiences. It might or might not be familiar to you. Perhaps the OP just doesn't know enough about WM or touchscreen phones. Perhaps he has other mental or physical 'limitations' (not insulting here, just trying to make some sort of a point). We don't know! So we can't judge.

Now, my experience with my current Omnia and ROM is really good. I use a WM 6.5 ROM, Sectors 6.5 ROM, version K1 (http://www.modaco.com/content/i9x0-omnia-rom-discussion/285140/qbus-sector-khuanchai-windows-mobile-6-5-research-thread/).

Maybe it helps you, who knows.

BTW! It is always a good idea to try and read about the problems you have with your Omnia. Is it completely Windows Mobile related? (Some people like how WM works, others hate it. Maybe it's just not your thing?).

If the problem is mostly Windows Mobile related, well then there are other options out there for you! But another WM device might not be the best choice...

[Guest Pdub73]

Maybe someone can help me out (not a fanboy please)

.

I am a US Verizon customer. Have the Storm right now, do NOT like it. Lot's of issues. I need a decent phone that can get decent email, has a facebook app, and has a decent camera. But also, one that is not impossible to send texts and emails with a finger and not a stylus. I would also need or like a program where one click takes me to stock quotes of stocks I own. So you would think the iPhone made the most sense for me.. so did I, but then I saw ATT's cost and no way am I doing that.

I looked at the Omnia, but it looks like it would be too hard to text and email. I looked at ATT and the iPhone, and about threw up when they told me how much their packages were. My wife wants to stay on Verizon because her family is on there and they give us 10 free numbers to call, so our bill is cheap even with 2 blackberry plans.

Does anyone have any recommendations on what phone i should be looking at, or if they can give me their 2c on their Omnia experience using it without a stylus?

I'm pretty sure there is a facebook app out now for winmo. I don't like my Storm because quite frankly, it's buggy, and besides that, it's too darn big of a phone.

well to tell u the truth depending on whether type in landscape or portrait the keyboard options for the Omnia are pretty good....I don't think email retrieval is as good as BB but and being a WinMo phone facebook is the actual facebook...!!! or u can download and use a facebook app...either way...

or try the touch Pro it has a hardware keyboard...the Touch Diamond just came out too...but I don't know how good or bad the Keyboard is...good luck!

[Guest AngusATAT]

can you use you great omnia in sunlight (infact ordinary day light)?

I can at least answer this one.

Yes. I do it all the time. If it's extremely bright out, I'll block the sun with my shadow, and I can read the screen just fine.

People act like this is a problem that only exists with the Omnia. I can't tell you how many phones I've had that have the same issue. My old Razor was the same way. My EnV was the same way. My last phone was an LG Chocolate... yep, same issue.

Improvise, adapt, and overcome. It's not rocket science.

[Guest bpivk]

should the average joe have to fiddle with file contents to make a simple programme like igo or tomtom work?

I don't know what version you're using but Igo worked stock on my phone. I would show the settings but i have switched to Garmin because they have better maps for my country.

[Guest banderdragon]

i like my Omnia. Point of fact, i got my Omnia because i was charging my HTC at work one day and a surge over the USB cooked the USB port. No more charging, no more data connect. it is my understanding that the way the Omnia cable is designed prevents this. I am not a electrical tech, but it makes sense.

As the the functions, i had a great time last night rubbing all the smug iPhone people's noses in SPB Sell3.

[Guest modidlee]

the great thing about WinMo is that there are SO MANY CHOICES for apps. Personally, i'm testing out 2 facebook apps right now; plus facebooks mobile site is pretty damn good. And the samsung keyboard that comes with the phone sucks balls. since i've had my omnia i've used a modded samsung keyboard, spb keyboard, and now resco keyboard; i think resco is the best. if you tweak it and install certain apps you won't even need the stylus. the new i910 rom has a stocks widget built-in, plus you can always install others. when i first got the omnia i didn't really like it but when i started learning about how to tweak it (i.e USE SPB Mobile Shell 3), and flash new ROM's i fell in love with it. the ONLY problem i have with it now is how hard it is to see the screen in sunlight.

Maybe someone can help me out (not a fanboy please)

.

I am a US Verizon customer. Have the Storm right now, do NOT like it. Lot's of issues. I need a decent phone that can get decent email, has a facebook app, and has a decent camera. But also, one that is not impossible to send texts and emails with a finger and not a stylus. I would also need or like a program where one click takes me to stock quotes of stocks I own. So you would think the iPhone made the most sense for me.. so did I, but then I saw ATT's cost and no way am I doing that.

I looked at the Omnia, but it looks like it would be too hard to text and email. I looked at ATT and the iPhone, and about threw up when they told me how much their packages were. My wife wants to stay on Verizon because her family is on there and they give us 10 free numbers to call, so our bill is cheap even with 2 blackberry plans.

Does anyone have any recommendations on what phone i should be looking at, or if they can give me their 2c on their Omnia experience using it without a stylus?

I'm pretty sure there is a facebook app out now for winmo. I don't like my Storm because quite frankly, it's buggy, and besides that, it's too darn big of a phone.

[Guest Jokes On You]

folks look at the title of this thread..."don't buy an omnia...this phone", it's not "my iphone is better thanyour omnia ha ha". shouldn't we be showing here the things we find "not nice" about the omnia?

as for charging via usb...it depends on which cable your phone uses. there are SEVERAL!! types. some end in ube (with me it just drains the phone) and bbe, which seems to charge the phone reasonably. why has nobody quoted there cable model number??? probably because the great omnian preachers have their head somewhere... that they're too blind to realise this, they've done less than 0 research on this. as for the "apparent" fact that it charges slowly because it's usb, read other websites, including this one about how lame the pin config is. there is a +5 volt rail that the omnia seems to ignore. read and decide for yourself. if you use a dumb CHARGING cable, it will charge at same speed as the mains charger, so why doesn't the usb DATA cable do the same. ring samsung and ask what is the purpose of the cable, listen to their answer "...it's a data cable and not really meant to chrge the phone". o.k. so it seems as though i spoke to a newbie. and for everybody who swears blind that it charges from the usb cable, drain your phone and then see if it will charge from the usb cable. please, before you omnian preachers jump on your high horses of how great this phone is, check the threads on this site about the usb charging scenario and go to xda devs. there are seasoned veterans there, real gurus who will give the full story of the usb charging cables. at the end of the day, every htc except one, charged from dead using the usb cable and that means ANY USB CABLE. so go figure!! the screen on the omnia reall is POOH!! waste of time! with some apps, you need to modify screen settings by going into certain files (igo8 etc.). why should the omnia be so different here? is there such a great benefit?? before you say "it's a techie phone", sorry that is not what the marketing sayd at schiphol airport, which is where i first say it, in pre-release. they had all of the glamour, half nekedgirls modelling the phone, just like it was as simple to use as a nokia (and basic as). so don;t tell me it's a techy phone. samsung marketed this thing to everybody.

so in summary..

what cables are people using for usb charging?

can you charge from dead via your legendary, god given cables?

should the average joe have to fiddle with file contents to make a simple programme like igo or tomtom work?

can you use you great omnia in sunlight (infact ordinary day light)?

what firmware are you using?

...i'll post the threads i have collected re. usb charging soon.

One it does charge via USB just slowly I use my cable to charge my phone all the time. Why would you want to completely discharge your phone? Two Wimo isnt for average joes.Period. Because Samsung marketed to regular people doesnt mean it is for regular people. Its called broadening your base. This is Samsung's first attempt at a phone such as this so why limit yourself to just "businness" or "techy" users. If you buy a Wimo phone your getting a device with a wide array of possibilites. And as for the sunlight thing this isnt the only device that has sunlight issues.