I like the new iPhone commercials

[Guest finaldestiny]

Not for Power Point though. Or Bluetooth transfers (unless you jailbreak).

Just out of interest, based on what do you choose your phone now?

I'm going based on what OS is on it now. I got pulled into the Omnia because of it's rich features. I didn't realize that I might've ended up not utilizing most of them because it was far too frustrating using them through Windows Mobile. SPB 3 came along and it was great being able to get to different features without getting angry lol I still have to interact with the default messaging application though... :D

Man I didn't wanna start a huge flamewar between one guy and the rest of the community =P I just think their commercials are stupid and they're very late in the game with a ton of things.

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Anyway if you like the iPhone so much there's this button at the top of the screen here. Just go scroll up and click the iPhone thing. You have a forum for that, you don't even need an app! I still think my Omnia is superior to the iPhone, I'm discussing it with Omnia people.

Scott

lol This a far cry from a flame war! I have no personal ties with either phone. I was, as you, just sharing my views on both phones. I don't mind criticizing a device (and certainly, neither phone is perfect) but it did just seem to me like people were just... 'hating' (for lack of a better, shorter term). Like I said, I don't think the iPhone is as bad as they were making it sound. (& yes, I was, and still am, one of the few people who defends Windows Vista, so maybe I just like being a minority :) )

btw... I've only used the first generation iPhone briefly. I've never used the others at all. I've owned the Omnia for about 7 months now. I think it's fair to say that I'm one of you 'Omnia people'. ;)

Keep in mind that after the firmware is updated, Itouch has been having the same heat issue according to some people AND there is this gem of an update: http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/news/index.cfm?newsid=118708

Of course it couldn't be Apples fault, its the users for having it out in hot weather.. Silly users.

I wasn't aware that the iTouch was having heat issues as well after iPhone OS 3.0...do you have a link to that? I obviously wouldn't know every single case of over heating, but I do know that my Omnia heats up all the time, during what I consider is regular use. Obviously iPhone users aren't accustomed to that.

[Guest Straenge]

I wasn't aware that the iTouch was having heat issues as well after iPhone OS 3.0...do you have a link to that? I obviously wouldn't know every single case of over heating, but I do know that my Omnia heats up all the time, during what I consider is regular use. Obviously iPhone users aren't accustomed to that.

http://www.quickpwn.com/2009/06/iphone-os-...g-problems.html

And thats just one of a few links found on google recently. Its obviously the OS doing it to one point or another but it will take another 5 months for Apple to admit it. As for your Omnia heating up, I believe that is a bit different. I use it probably as much, if not more since I have a tendency to not shut down programs running in the background and don't really experience anything over a gentle lukewarmth even when trying to push it. But I also haven't updated with the leaked ROM update as of yet so that might be why, not sure.

To be fair, aside from the heating issues, I came very close to getting the Iphone because I am a first time smartphone user and, as quoted from a previous topic, Iphone is more like a phone with PDA capabilitys whereas the Omnia is a PDA with phone capabilitys. I decided to go the harder route that I would end up being happier with and after almost a week of owning it, other than a few quirks, I am quite happy with it. I think I would have been happy with the Iphone but the novelty of it would have bored me eventually.(Especially since I refuse to pay for any program unless its truly worth my time and/or generally worth the cost) but maybe thats just me.

[Guest momok]

I've been wondering this for some time now, and am still confused. My poker buddies (like 7 out of 10 of them) all own iphones so needless to say, they have this group thinking going bout them. I'm the only one who owns a winmo phone. even after having read several threads out there, i'm still wondering exactly what it is that truly makes an iphone shine against another winmo smartphone, or vice versa.

With the new iphone 3s coming out, what exactly does the average smartphone have up against it? (considering a jailbreaked one of course) i know all about the gripes of 'cut and paste' functions etc but the fact is, iphone 3S has it now. so where does it really lose out?

can it really be counted as a smartphone? how does it compare against a winmo smartphone? would appreciate some really objective info here; I'm feeling a little upset about not being able to refute my friends' opinions on how 'godly' their iphone is.

Edited July 8, 2009 by momok

[Guest ^nighthawk^]

iTunes.

The single biggest reason NOT to use an apple product.

Love my mates 3GS seems smart etc, but no doubt he'll have to send it back for it not working at some point. His first gen iphone went back and was replaced twice and same with his 3G.

Yeah there are alternatives to iTunes, but seriously......that software really gets on my nerves.

[Guest finaldestiny]

As for your Omnia heating up, I believe that is a bit different. I use it probably as much, if not more since I have a tendency to not shut down programs running in the background and don't really experience anything over a gentle lukewarmth even when trying to push it. But I also haven't updated with the leaked ROM update as of yet so that might be why, not sure.

To be fair, aside from the heating issues, I came very close to getting the Iphone because I am a first time smartphone user and, as quoted from a previous topic, Iphone is more like a phone with PDA capabilitys whereas the Omnia is a PDA with phone capabilitys. I decided to go the harder route that I would end up being happier with and after almost a week of owning it, other than a few quirks, I am quite happy with it. I think I would have been happy with the Iphone but the novelty of it would have bored me eventually.(Especially since I refuse to pay for any program unless its truly worth my time and/or generally worth the cost) but maybe thats just me.

LoL we can trade Omnias then :D lol mine feels rather warm after just a few minutes of wifi activity, which I really don't think is necessary or whatever, but I've come to accept it as just how the device works. And it's not like it's a painful burn or anything either, but I guess it doesn't help that I live in a pretty warm climate.

Your experience is almost like the opposite of mine lol I too had the choice and went with the Omnia, but for me the quirks didn't really stop until I got SPB 3 (which was recently, and yeah, I do recommend it to anyone who isn't liking Omnia's default interface) I somewhat regret not going with the iPhone now, partly because of the updates from Apple it's gonna continue getting, but more so because I've been meaning to do some app development anyway, and obviously need a test machine.

Ah c'est la vie. Let's just leave it as both phones have their respective cons and pros, which obviously appeal differently to various ppl so a definite winner can never really be found ;)

[Guest bawdiest]

I have family member who is die hard apple. I asked him about the new 3gs and he said it was screaming fast! This peaked my interests so I asked about the processor and he replied it's got a 600mhz arm.....I did everything I could to hold back the giggles as I asked him about the 3g's processor..."it's only got a 300" LMAO

There's a reason it can't multitask. It needs all the power to render pretty on screen buttons!

I got my iPhone 2 weeks ago. And I should say it is fantastic phone. No comparison to omnia. Omnia is a piece of sheet.

That is clear, iPhone cant do all the things Omnia is able to do. But the things iPhone is able to do, they just work out of the box. On omnia you have to apply hundreds of tweaks and hardly edit the registry before it works more or less acceptable. And when you decide to upgrade the firmware everything is lost.

What did you said about the performance? Have you forgotten the ringtone and vibration delay on omnia when someone calls you? Have you tried to run iGO8 and WMP or Touchplayer in background? I tried and I have to say: foget it. Omnia is to weak for such things. On iPhone Navigon and iPod in background work like a charm.

I propose to all. Firstly try the both before you do the comparisons. Technical specificatons dont tell much. On these devices the software is very important.

[Guest finaldestiny]

What did you said about the performance? Have you forgotten the ringtone and vibration delay on omnia when someone calls you? Have you tried to run iGO8 and WMP or Touchplayer in background?

I don't think the ringtone/vibration delay has to do with performance, it is very likely that it was just designed this way. Unless we're not thinking of the same thing.

As for the iGo8, no experience with that, but the music for sure causes the device to slow down, not because it can't handle multitasking music and doing sumting else, but simply because the processor is slowed to increase battery life. Once you release the processor limits you find that the Omnia is quite capable of playing music in the bg without missing a beat.

I propose to all. Firstly try the both before you do the comparisons. Technical specificatons dont tell much. On these devices the software is very important.

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Edited July 8, 2009 by finaldestiny

[Guest Diggedy]

I got my iPhone 2 weeks ago. And I should say it is fantastic phone. No comparison to omnia. Omnia is a piece of sheet.

That is clear, iPhone cant do all the things Omnia is able to do. But the things iPhone is able to do, they just work out of the box. On omnia you have to apply hundreds of tweaks and hardly edit the registry before it works more or less acceptable. And when you decide to upgrade the firmware everything is lost.

What did you said about the performance? Have you forgotten the ringtone and vibration delay on omnia when someone calls you? Have you tried to run iGO8 and WMP or Touchplayer in background? I tried and I have to say: foget it. Omnia is to weak for such things. On iPhone Navigon and iPod in background work like a charm.

I propose to all. Firstly try the both before you do the comparisons. Technical specificatons dont tell much. On these devices the software is very important.

Maybe the new phone or a recent software upgrade allows you to do this well but when i was using my Iphone running programs in the background wasnt really possible (perhaps music and the net) and when I did the battery was usually dead within a few hours and everything slowed down considerably. I had to jail break it and run a program called backgrounder which wasnt all that reliable and trying to keep instant messenger running in the background was like mastering the black arts.

One of the things which won me over on the Iphone was the screen and how slick everything looks, but the restrictions and battery life soon got the better of me.

[Guest La Traviata]

That is clear, iPhone cant do all the things Omnia is able to do. But the things iPhone is able to do, they just work out of the box.

Unfortunately, some of the things the iPhone can't do are important to me. As I said in another thread, I originally wanted an iPhone; I still do. I love the UI and screen, the music player and the many accessories, but sadly that is secondary if, for example, I can't edit a presentation. I only got my Omnia a couple of months ago, so I won't be getting a new phone until next year, but I'm keeping an eye on Omnia II, Omnia Pro and the iPhone (as well as Toshiba TG01 and whatever HTC come up with next) and see how things develop. From the previews it seems Samsung has addressed a lot of the problems of Omnia I and I'm sure the iPhone will continue to improve as well. However, given that to get an iPhone I would have to change to a SP/network with poorer coverage, sign up for an 18+ month contract on a tariff twice as expensive as my current one (or pay £500+ for the phone on pay as you go), pay for basic functions that I currently get for free, e.g. tethering (£15-£30 @ month extra) and editing office documents, not to mention being tied to iTunes, Apple would really have to make it worth my while.

I'm going based on what OS is on it now. I got pulled into the Omnia because of it's rich features. I didn't realize that I might've ended up not utilizing most of them because it was far too frustrating using them through Windows Mobile. SPB 3 came along and it was great being able to get to different features without getting angry

Yeah, SPB 3 made a world of difference for me too. Have you tried the SPB 3 skins from Imarche? They give you even more options to customise with dozens of background, button and clock styles (incl. an iPhone theme), adding widgets etc.

http://www.imarche.net/omnia/index.php

Highly recommended!

Edited July 14, 2009 by La Traviata

[Guest Uribam]

The Omnia is a phone FOR people who tweak stuff. The iPhone is for people who want to say "I have all these games and apps". How customizable is the interface on the iPhone? You can set a desktop background but everything works ala winterface. Yeah, we can get that interface too! We can also run tons of totally different interfaces, have more than one web browser, more than one music player, do anything we want. Do that with an iPhone and prove me wrong =)

[Guest thejaff]

I looked at a lot of phones before I got a new one. Although I didn't consider the iphone (because of the network), I looked at the Blackberry Storm, which I consider to be similar to the iphone. It probably works great out of the box and has a ton of functionality. It seemed more user friendly, like the iPhone (which is what most people want).

The Omnia, however, takes some time to get used to and adjust to your personal settings and feel. Spb MS3 was a HUGE improvement to the phone if you use that, and makes it better than the iPhone interface IMO (there is only 1 place to see the clock on the iPhone, seriously?). Also, I've found several of these cooked ROMs to be great improvements in the interface (or that might just be WinMo 6.5).

Ultimately, I think the potential of the Omnia was far greater than either of the other phones, mostly because I think Windows has more potential. It's more customizable, and as said before, with some tweaking can be very effective at what you want it to do. It might not be able to do everything great all at once (what device can for that matter?), but it can do what you need it to do very well, across a large spectrum of applications.