Why you bought (or will) Omnia 2

[Guest Quang05BlkBoxsterS n Omnia]

I guess it is time to wrap it up by your own reasons from 1 (not important and bad) to 10 (very and best) (some index from the check list below might be the same):

1. bigger screen than iphone

2. gorgeous AMOLED

3. resistive screen

4. slick thin rounded corner shape

5. build quality

6. all must have 3.5mm audio jack, speaker, micro USB

7. 5mpixel with dual flash (good picture at day and night, functional settings and easy to use, fast image capture from pressing button)

8. 30fps video recording or DVD like quality (good smooth video and audi quality)

9. std 256 RAM and faster CPU than iphone 3gs

10. internal storage 8G, 16G hot swap

11. world support HSPDA

12. bigger battery than iphone

13. GPS (fast reliable and power efficiency)

14. digital compass

15. easy to use and great intuitive UI (or 3rd party UI apps)

16. business such as emails, docs (easy to sync..)

17. fast responsive screen and apps

18. many good apps and easy to mod

19. auto rotate sensor for the right apps (annoying if for all apps)

20. brand name

21. reliability

22. app store (not yet but coming soon)

23. customer support and service

24. audio player (all format support and great sound reproduction)

25. video player (all format support and great quality like smooth playback)

26. Fm radio (strong and clean reception)

27. photo player (fast loading and displaying)

28. smooth thumb friendly web viewer and fast browser (over 3G and wifi)

29. fast smooth multitasking

30. phone call quality and signal reception (no drop calls or static, echo)

31. gaming

Additional items are welcome.

Edited September 4, 2009 by Quang05BlkBoxsterS n Omnia

[Guest silencer22]

bcos its samsung :)

[Guest MUYAMAN]

wouldn't say that the Omnia 2 has faster CPU. In terms of numbers yes Omnia 2 has a 800mhz by 6XXmhz of 3GS. However, the CPU on the 3gs is CortexA8 CPU which is one generation ahead of the one on the Omnia 2.

However, in terms number crunching and 3D power the 3GS is way ahead. source = http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=5672

Omnia 2 for 3D has 4 M triangles/s, 125.6 M pixels/s vs. 28 M triangles/s, 400 M pixels/s for 3GS.

Interestingly, the Omnia HD has the same SoC as the 3GS.

But I bought Omnia2 because of bigger screen, not tied to itunes and APPLE (ie free) and is cheaper than the 3GS

Edited September 7, 2009 by MUYAMAN

[Guest nicodega]

wouldn't say that the Omnia 2 has faster CPU. In terms of numbers yes Omnia 2 has a 800mhz by 6XXmhz of 3GS. However, the CPU on the 3gs is CortexA8 CPU which is one generation ahead of the one on the Omnia 2.

However, in terms number crunching and 3D power the 3GS is way ahead. source = http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=5672

Omnia 2 for 3D has 4 M triangles/s, 125.6 M pixels/s vs. 28 M triangles/s, 400 M pixels/s for 3GS.

Interestingly, the Omnia HD has the same SoC as the 3GS.

But I bought Omnia2 because of bigger screen, not tied to itunes and APPLE (ie free) and is cheaper than the 3GS

On a processor sheet (dated february 2008) which is hosted on samsung's site, it said the omnia processor can achieve as much as 9M trienagles/s.

I believe the 4M was based on the older processor technical sheet which also stated the processor could only run at 600 Mhz or less.

Edited September 9, 2009 by nicodega

[Guest zetagnosis]

Hi...

Omia 2 don't work for advanced or business users:

Missing reply to all users in mails accounts

No auto rotate screen in sms or others applications

Format in mails lost.

TouchWiz very slow... very very slow (replaced by SP Mobile shell !! this rock)

Cube?? not very useful

"My Sotarge" is erased after a hard reset, when it should only be reinstalled the operating system (8GB lost)

No advanced customizations (cooking, remove samsung appz and customizations... please leave a google away)

Random bugs.....

I always had HTC smartphones, Touch, Touch Dual, Diamond, Touch Pro, Touch Pro 2, HD... and are vastly superior to the samsung interface. Samsung still in diapers...

Good thing??:

large screen (cool)

AMOLED Display ( very cool)

5 mpx camera with double flash

800mhz processor (yeah baby !!)

World Phone (i live in chile !!! saludo para los brocachochis, chipamoglis y weones varios de mi terruño !!)

GPS (really more or less)

.... thinking....

........ still thinking..........

...... ouch !! nothing more for me......

I should not have purchased the omnia... :)

Edited September 9, 2009 by zetagnosis

[Guest chokia]

I was at the shop few times playing with Omnia 2, still cannot make my mind to proceed with the purchase, due to the fact the look is damn ugly especially the cube, the slope buttons and 8GB wording on top (the hell is that for?)

Regarding the auto rotate, How come there's no workaround to tweak this until now?

[Guest Quang05BlkBoxsterS n Omnia]

From what I've read it looks like the HW far exceeds its SW which is one of the lousiest by Samsung who should hire SW experts. But it tried to make up by throwing in a bigger 3.7" AMOLED. Why resistive because Samsung does NOT have the SW expertise to write multitouch for a capacitive one.

Other phones like iphone are optimized HW and SW to work together as one SOLID unit and the UI just follows that. Things the designers are not sure about smooth bug free performance are left out on purpose so that is why there is no flash or multitasking in iphone DELIBERATELY.

I rather have a BUG FREE FAST FLUID UI and apps performance than a buggy complex device. But without multitasking (maybe just a few apps open) it is a minus.

N900 coming our way BABY please Nokia don't screw up this one and I don't mind drop all winmo apps to jump over to Ovi even it has far fewer apps but at least they work perfectly the very first time and EVERY TIME!

[Guest Sea-Breeze]

iphone is damn boring

[Guest La Traviata]

Flexibility and choice of apps are the reason why I chose WinMo as OS and good hardware specs all around, i.e. decent battery life and processor and camera (not just one or two from this list) is the reason why I keep coming back to Omnia, rather than HTC, SE or iPhone. Software can be tweaked or downloaded, but you're pretty much stuck with the hardware.

iPhone 3G S has a great UI, screen and apps, but still lacks some basic functions, the camera isn't great, the phone is too locked down, too dependent on iTunes and seems to have compatibility issues with certain web services. Plus I don't want to switch SPs and it is ridiculously expensive to buy unlocked. TG01 seems to be the same half-finished thing that was rushed to the market too quickly as Omnia I and again the camera is weak. I was very hopeful for Xperia 2, but the memory seems quite small, so there may be problems with memory management, the processor isn't great and apparently the build is flimsy. HTC seems to always have either a weak camera, battery or processor and on N900 again the processor and battery don't look too impressive, plus I'm not sure about choice of apps.

So yeah, right now I'm still looking at Omnia II or Omnia Pro as my next phone and also keeping an eye on TG02.

[Guest AndyHamp]

Hi...

Omia 2 don't work for advanced or business users:

Missing reply to all users in mails accounts

No auto rotate screen in sms or others applications

Format in mails lost.

TouchWiz very slow... very very slow (replaced by SP Mobile shell !! this rock)

Cube?? not very useful

"My Sotarge" is erased after a hard reset, when it should only be reinstalled the operating system (8GB lost)

No advanced customizations (cooking, remove samsung appz and customizations... please leave a google away)

Random bugs.....

Umm ... i've not yet purchased as they are difficult to get here in the UK ... but business use is my #1 priority ..

No Reply to All would be a big issue for me ... really surprised if that is true

No Auto rotate is irritating but not a big deal

Formatting loss in email would also be a big issue .... surprising if true as my 4 year old HTC doesn't have these issues

Cube .... agreed ... a big joke .... why not make it a dpad and have it be useful !

Reason i'm interested ... HSDPA 7.6 and HSUPA .... UTMS covering USA/Europe/SA/Oz.

Big Screen

fast CPU

Good multimedia support

Quality build

agps

My first choice would have been the Louvre/Qwerty/B7610 but it fails on those points. I'm waiting for next months batch of announcements just in case I find something better .... Xperia 2 almost looked like ideal tool but poor screen and cpu (compared with Omnia) make it a miss i think.

[Guest zetagnosis]

Regarding the auto rotate, How come there's no workaround to tweak this until now?

yes, assign a button to execute the screen rotation... Gyrator dont work fine

:)

[Guest zetagnosis]

Umm ... i've not yet purchased as they are difficult to get here in the UK ... but business use is my #1 priority ..

No Reply to All would be a big issue for me ... really surprised if that is true

No Auto rotate is irritating but not a big deal

Formatting loss in email would also be a big issue .... surprising if true as my 4 year old HTC doesn't have these issues

Cube .... agreed ... a big joke .... why not make it a dpad and have it be useful !

Reason i'm interested ... HSDPA 7.6 and HSUPA .... UTMS covering USA/Europe/SA/Oz.

Big Screen

fast CPU

Good multimedia support

Quality build

agps

My first choice would have been the Louvre/Qwerty/B7610 but it fails on those points. I'm waiting for next months batch of announcements just in case I find something better .... Xperia 2 almost looked like ideal tool but poor screen and cpu (compared with Omnia) make it a miss i think.

Yes:

NO REPLY TO ALL

NO AUTOMATIC ROTATE IN SMS OR REPLY MAILS (solved by assigning a button to execute screen rotation, puf..)

MAIL FORMAT LOST with Outlook Mobile "powered" with Samsung Fuc& Wizz (use Flex Mail !! or another mail client)

and so....

I'm advanced and business user, my last smartphone was a HTC Touch PRO 2. A great business phone. The problem??: Weigth !!! Omnia 2 have a great hardware, but no UI... We still waiting for a PURE WINMO ROM...

[Guest Quang05BlkBoxsterS n Omnia]

I wonder why Samsung spent lots of time trying to improve its widgets but still almost nobody wanted them. Does that ring a bell for them yet? Just build a simple SPB shell-like UI that provides fast smooth and easy navigation to any customisable apps then it automatically has a big applaud. Then its HW specs will also automatically add the momentum. It maybe just simple as that to be an iphone killer in terms of popularity.

Apple does not want multitasking (GPS and CPU hogging multimedia apps running at the same time) because it sure will KILL iphone battery in minutes. But it will look thicker with a bigger battery which will not be another hype ending up loosing the right to brag. Another biggest score for iphone is its out of no where 3.5" capacitive screen with tilt sensor which helped its fan base back then. It all comes down to who gets there first with a knock them dead feature and tries to maintain the leading position.

[Guest brucewilsonpa]

Yes:

NO REPLY TO ALL

..

Don't know if I'm missing what your meaning is for this, but I have the O2 and its mail client DOES include a REPLY TO ALL, just like all WinMo 6.x mail clients. It's on the menu, not a soft button, but I don't find that so hard to use.

[Guest mementomori]

well i dont have the omnia II but i have the omnia pro or b7610. i must say amazing device. I was worried because of the reviews on the daylight visibility but i guess the didnt use automatic screen brightness because its actually pretty good especially compared to my original omnia. the colors on the screen are really beautyfull..it s a joy to see the screen come out sleep fase..i dont use the touchwizz widget ui but the b7610 has a life and work modus. the widgets are for life modus an can be replaced bij spb mshell 3 while with one button press the work mode give an alternative (really nice) interface. the phone is really fast and i havent seen any bugs or anything. its still on wm 6.1 but an upgrade will come soon. only diiference is less storage but wth i can put in 32 gig

the screen is smaller but according to specs has more colors..

anyway since its for the most the same phone the omnia II should be one hell of a phone!! just use spb 3 or something

BTW check some more sites about the specs for b7610 is does support the things u mention..just different sites..different specs..strange

Edited September 17, 2009 by mementomori

[Guest Perfectionist]

Is this better than the Omnia HD / 8910 ??

[Guest stu_2k1]

Im buying one because, When i got off the bus the other day 5 people where on their Iphones. I dont wanna be one of them people :)

[Guest kohanson]

I bought this phone because 1/4 of my office is using this phone, :) i love the 3.7 inch screen which is larger than iphone, the screen has 480x800, it also has brilliant colours because of the LED screen, because it is windows mobile and almost every program can be downloaded and changed and it is very slim..

[Guest babyjosef17]

"My Sotarge" is erased after a hard reset, when it should only be reinstalled the operating system (8GB lost)

No auto rotate screen in sms or others applications

1.) Not True. If you hard reset using the hardware keys. Volume up+Lock Button+Call Key+End Key. It will only format the Winmo. My Storage and Storage card will be intact. Plus even after Hard Reset. Numbering of Camera Picture (SNC000.. etc) is retained. Something that has changed from the previous Omnia.

2.) I don't know why your phone does not rotate to landscape in SMS or Email. Because it does. So as for picture viewing, Internet Browsers, Media Player, But not for eveything compareed to the 1st omnia which is actually an improvement.

Please research more carefully before posting statements that are false and may affect other users decisions.

I should not have purchased the omnia... ;)

Yes. Not all people are meant to use Omnia, or for that matter, WinMo devices.

Edited December 9, 2009 by babyjosef17

[Guest KILLvino]

sigh... its a winmo phone. so most of the complaints mentioned you can get around. it doesnt have a capacitive touch b/c its a winmo phone. we want to use stylus and have PRECISION. apples multitasking decision has its merits. but its called control, if u use wm u know not to have stuff running in the background. apple just likes to spoon feed ppl with a not as customizeable UI, no multi-tasking, itunes and applestore.

if ur not a baby and need to be spoonfed u get winmo device.

i got it O2 mainly for the 3.7 amoled, 800 mhz and i felt like trying a samsung device.

so far the only disappointment i have is the lack of usable RAM.

[Guest Tylwith]

I wonder why Samsung spent lots of time trying to improve its widgets but still almost nobody wanted them.

I suppose you are every samsung users on the planet by yourselft!!

touchwiz is used by thousand of people using samsung phone it also a selling point for a lot of samsung phones..Even on omnia 2 a lot of users are using it. It's not because some users complain that it means that nobody is using it. Claiming that samsung do not have the expertise to program capacitive screen is in my opinion going a bit too far ,multi touch screen on windows mobile go and look at the hd2 thread to see how many people are complaining about it. If you can do better than samsung i will wait for your work.

if your not happy with samsung go buy an iphone or a nokia phone.

[Guest costipl]

Maybe you're right, but let's face it - Samsung's software is lightyears behind the hardware. Some examples from Omnia2:

- Incoming call screen - on WinMo6.1, you get a nice custom screen with a big "Send & Ignore" button that you could use to ignore a call and send a message to the caller. You also had TouchPlayer controls on the lockscreen. But guess what? You don't have any of these on a WinMo6.5-based rom. Who the hell decided to remove that functionality? What's the point of removing features on a rom upgrade? Sure, you get a nice incoming call interface on the lockscreen in return, but it still doesn't have the "send & ignore" function, all it has are two sliders that do the exact same thing as the hardware buttons, which make them pretty much useless...

- rotation - it works only in selected apps, which for some people here is a good thing. Not for me, I'd love to have rotation in Word, Excel and some other apps. There are workarounds for it, but why not simply give the user an option to tweak the rotation behavior to their liking by default?

- OpenGL drivers - whoever decided that not including drivers that 99% of apps use was a good idea should get fired immediately.

- the bundled Asphalt 4 HD game doesn't use 3D hardware acceleration of the phone's GPU; again, what's the point of including a game in the rom that looks ugly on the O2 compared to other devices (even an iphone)?

-Samsung decided to tweak some system settings (most noticeably - the file that stores the setting of WM6.5 Titanium panels) for no reason whatsoever, as if they just wanted to piss people off... what's the point (also see the note about OpenGL drivers).

All this means, that while O2 has amazing hardware specs, a lot of its potential is wasted by lousy software engineering. Most users won't be bothered with looking for user-made drivers or tweaks on the internet - they'll just return the phone and buy something else. To be honest, I also wanted to do the same thing, but decided to stick with the O2 because of the beautiful screen and good price for what it offers.

[Guest KILLvino]

agreed samsungs software and D&D is behind and lacking alot. they just arent used to making good winmo devices yet. the lag with touchwiz was unbearable.

the main point to this phone is that its WM so you can work around problems and the OLED, which is beautiful AND saves so much battery. this phones battery lasts me longer than any other phone ive tried

[Guest SmashOgre]

The reply to all isn't true, works fine for me.

Umm ... i've not yet purchased as they are difficult to get here in the UK ... but business use is my #1 priority ..

No Reply to All would be a big issue for me ... really surprised if that is true

No Auto rotate is irritating but not a big deal

Formatting loss in email would also be a big issue .... surprising if true as my 4 year old HTC doesn't have these issues

Cube .... agreed ... a big joke .... why not make it a dpad and have it be useful !

Reason i'm interested ... HSDPA 7.6 and HSUPA .... UTMS covering USA/Europe/SA/Oz.

Big Screen

fast CPU

Good multimedia support

Quality build

agps

My first choice would have been the Louvre/Qwerty/B7610 but it fails on those points. I'm waiting for next months batch of announcements just in case I find something better .... Xperia 2 almost looked like ideal tool but poor screen and cpu (compared with Omnia) make it a miss i think.

[Guest dsa88]

It's a great piece of hardware, hopefully S3C6410 will run Android or IPhone OS sooner or later..