Touch Pro 2 vs Omnia 2... I need a keyboard

[Guest WhiteBlazer01]

I've had an HTC Apache, Titan, and now Touch Pro (all on Verizon), and now I was anticipating the Touch Pro 2 (which will be available in the next few days), however, my attention has been turned towards the Omnia 2. It seems to me this would be a better alternative to, say the Touch Diamond 2, but I really love having a keyboard, so I'm wondering if there will be an Omnia 2 Pro (or Omnia Pro 2). Any news/info?

Thanks!

[Guest mattb777]

yes there is!

it's called an Omnia Pro B7610 and should have the same specs as the Omnia II in terms of screen, processer, etc.

see this post for a comparison between the Omnia Pro and a Touch Pro 2:

http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=5024

hope that helps!

[Guest AndyHamp]

it's called an Omnia Pro B7610 and should have the same specs as the Omnia II in terms of screen, processer, etc.

True to a point .... The Pro is exactly the phone i want but unlike the Omnia II it is only dual band UTMS (so no good for the USA) and it's only 3.6mps HSDPA with no HSUPA. Most of the other specs seem the same, unfortunately for me, they are the ones that i care about most :-(

Andy

[Guest mobilehappy]

The new Sony Ericsson XPERIA X2 looks sweet too , here is a preview from ADVERT LINK REMOVED

[Guest AndyHamp]

The new Sony Ericsson XPERIA X2 looks sweet too , here is a preview from ADVERT LINK REMOVED

But have you seen the price !

http://www.expansys.com/d.aspx?partner=modaco&i=187341

The screen is relatively small @ 3.2" and it's not exactly a stunning CPU spec ...

[Guest La Traviata]

Yeah, I was really looking forward to Xperia 2 but the sepcs are pretty disappointing. I had hoped for more of an "upgrade" from Xperia 1.

[Guest Rothariger]

but, someone has tryied the xperia x1?

it has a lot of bugs, and for a phone high end its very frustrating... the xperia a sold has, 3 of all known issues...

i will never never again buy a SE device...

[Guest AndyHamp]

I wasn't impressed with a friends X1 ... styling was horrible IMHO.

Why is it that no one does a World Capable "Business" QWERTY Slide phone ? I really though the B7610 was going to be everything i was waiting for.

I'm still thinking the O II is the best compromise which i why i'm here.

[Guest argoldst]

That is a tough call. I was considering the TP2 and to this day, I am not sure if I made the right choice.

The O2 has better hardware and is capable of being better then the TP2 but it isn't right now. That might change when windows 6.5 comes out but the touchwiz interface is slow. Video and music is great on the O2 and it does have a pretty good landscape keyboard. As someone who owned the fuze, and many slide out keyboards before, i DEFEINTLY DO miss the keyboard, and I find myself trying to avoid txting when possible where i used to do it without a thought on the fuze.

While I do love the screen of the O2 and some of it's features, I am starting to feel i made a mistake. The keyboard is a HUGE factor if you txt a lot and also, i truely underestimated custom roms. I used to get windows 6.5 early and so many choices of custom roms for my HTC phones from xda. There just is not such place that compares for the O2. If you flash your phones and like changing your roms, an HTC phone is the way to go.

Sadly, other then a bigger/better screen, there is NO difference between the HTC TP (fuze) and HTC TP2.

Both are great phones, it just depends what you really are going to use the phone for.

[Guest mobilehappy]

Software its not so important since most versions can be moved from device to device.

The new Experia is as most devices a "could have been" one too....

It has all..except leading edge processing power, capacitive and amoled display.

So as usual selecting a device is a numbers game...

What it boils down too is what features is most important to you?

Samsung Pro .. processing power and amoled screen.

Sony Experia .. looks and camera.

HTC Touch Pro .. looks and touchflo.

The Samsung pro has leading edge processing power and screen ... but the device looks and lack of "tilting" screen might be a deal breaker.

For the HTC and Sony .. well Sony trumps htc on all points (except screen size and touchflo) , so unless those 2 are your main target..Sony is clearly ahead...

What would you choose?

[Guest AndyHamp]

So as usual selecting a device is a numbers game...

What it boils down too is what features is most important to you?

Samsung Pro .. processing power and amoled screen.

Sony Experia .. looks and camera.

HTC Touch Pro .. looks and touchflo.

The Samsung pro has leading edge processing power and screen ... but the device looks and lack of "tilting" screen might be a deal breaker.

For the HTC and Sony .. well Sony trumps htc on all points (except screen size and touchflo) , so unless those 2 are your main target..Sony is clearly ahead...

What would you choose?

Based on that selection only the SE ... my two must have features are UMTS 1900 (for USA) and 850/2100 for rest of the world + full speed HSDPA/HSUPA.

Only the SE has that ... but the expected price tag makes me say "i'll make do with the OMNIA" .... if my two key features were available on the TP2 that would work just fine for me.

For the "work" aspect then there are phones which would do .... for the "life" aspect there are also phones .... it's a shame that there's not one that fits into both categories.

Andy

[Guest AndyHamp]

Double post ...

Edited September 11, 2009 by AndyHamp

[Guest WhiteBlazer01]

That is a tough call. I was considering the TP2 and to this day, I am not sure if I made the right choice.

The O2 has better hardware and is capable of being better then the TP2 but it isn't right now. That might change when windows 6.5 comes out but the touchwiz interface is slow. Video and music is great on the O2 and it does have a pretty good landscape keyboard. As someone who owned the fuze, and many slide out keyboards before, i DEFEINTLY DO miss the keyboard, and I find myself trying to avoid txting when possible where i used to do it without a thought on the fuze.

Thanks for that reply, it helped! I was really drawn to the specs on paper (mainly on the PocketNow.com review - found here), and it does actually look pretty nice! I do use the camera a lot on my Touch Pro - which takes great quality pics, so I was looking forward to seeing the picture quality on the Omnia 2. I'm glad you owned the fuze (and other slide out keyboard phones), because I definitely must have a keyboard, and it seems I would also be avoiding using the on-screen keyboard on the Omnia 2. That is why I won't get the Omnia 2, but if it had a keyboard, I'd probably get it over the TP2.

While I do love the screen of the O2 and some of it's features, I am starting to feel i made a mistake. The keyboard is a HUGE factor if you txt a lot and also, i truely underestimated custom roms. I used to get windows 6.5 early and so many choices of custom roms for my HTC phones from xda. There just is not such place that compares for the O2. If you flash your phones and like changing your roms, an HTC phone is the way to go.

I have been flashing my HTC phones for a long time, and I think the ability to really customize and flash roms is just freakin great! I didn't know Samsung phones aren't as customizable.

Sadly, other then a bigger/better screen, there is NO difference between the HTC TP (fuze) and HTC TP2.

Both are great phones, it just depends what you really are going to use the phone for.

I'm not sure I agree with that part, from what I understand, there are many viable differences. Only big upset (for me) is the removal of the flashlight. I LOVED having it!!!! LOVED it!

[Guest La Traviata]

While I do love the screen of the O2 and some of it's features, I am starting to feel i made a mistake. The keyboard is a HUGE factor if you txt a lot and also, i truely underestimated custom roms. I used to get windows 6.5 early and so many choices of custom roms for my HTC phones from xda. There just is not such place that compares for the O2. If you flash your phones and like changing your roms, an HTC phone is the way to go.

I have been flashing my HTC phones for a long time, and I think the ability to really customize and flash roms is just freakin great! I didn't know Samsung phones aren't as customizable.

Samsung phones are just as customisable as HTC, they are both WinMo after all. As for ROMS, give it some time, Omnia II has only been out for a month or so. Have a look at all the different ROMs, fixes and customisations over on the Omnia I forum:

http://www.modaco.com/category/342/i9x0-om...nia-modaco-com/

Sooner or later there will be just as much support for Omnia II also. Plus a lot of stuff from XDA developers also works on Omnia.

Edited September 12, 2009 by La Traviata

[Guest rumkokos]

Yes i am facing the same dilema here :) Touch pro2 or Omnia2. I just love the keyboard on touch pro, and the design is awsome (comparing to omnia pro, that has practicaly same features than omnia II but is just damn ugly) I like them both having big screens however omnia II has much nicer amoled display thats drains the battery a lot less plus it gives these bright colors whereas the TP2 lacks that and the colors, i dont think they are so good judging from the youtube videos :) Besides the battery lasts 2-3 hours less talk time than the omnia II i really like the omnia movie support. It plays practicaly any movie where TP2 only plays mp4 and divx, but no xvid. And even mp4 and divx formats must be transformed manualy to fit the best resolution and speed to play smoothly so thats a big minus. Its more of a business phone and it has a great support for typing omnia II is more of a multimedia phone more for music, video, calling and not so much typing. Omnia pro B7610 is trying to compensate that... but i donno why they made a 3.5 inch screen instead of 3.7 as well and why did they give it such an ugly look. I just got used of the omnia II look with the cube in the middle... but omniapro is just stone-age design... and thats a deal breaker for me. Omnia HD outguns the iPhone by a light year, and Omnia II is a close call considering the WinMo slow operating system that can be substantialy improved by 6.5 and the speeds and smoothness will rise during the developing of the roms and custom coders i'm sure. So iphone will have to come with some big guns now, but Omnia II really lacks the hardware keyboard. Why dont they put omnia II specs into TP2 and you would have a supreme phone. I'm still unsure wether to buy omnia II or TP2 as i do send a lot os TXT's but i would like to have some videos on as well as i dont like to be around the charger all the time. They are both neat-looking phones, the specs of Omnia II outguns TP2, but to some the insanely great TP2 hardware keayboard will just overrun anything. OmniaPro is somewhat a compromise between a good-specification and an ugly phone :) Well if they made a great looking omniapro, omnia just wouldnt sell itself on the market i guess so its a marketing call... Kind of sux, but i still cant decide what to buy!

[Guest La Traviata]

Why dont they put omnia II specs into TP2 and you would have a supreme phone. I'm still unsure wether to buy omnia II or TP2 as i do send a lot os TXT's but i would like to have some videos on as well as i dont like to be around the charger all the time.

So true! I'd buy THAT phone immediately!

[Guest WhiteBlazer01]

....It plays practicaly any movie where TP2 only plays mp4 and divx, but no xvid. And even mp4 and divx formats must be transformed manualy to fit the best resolution and speed to play smoothly so thats a big minus. Its more of a business phone and it has a great support for typing omnia II is more of a multimedia phone more for music, video, calling and not so much typing.

TCPMP will play almost any media format, and the new (non free) version - CorePlayer is good too. But I think you're referring to the built-in HTC media player, which I don't know what it's limitations are on the TP2 (I have the TP1, and I don't use WMP or HTC MP). Either way, that is a software issue which can work with either phone - not a deciding factor when comparing between phones. I would consider a Blackberry more of a business phone, whereas the Touch Pro (and many other Winmo pocket pc phones), I would consider advanced user phones (unlike the iPhone which is a nice trendy phone for average users, but comparatively limited to the pocket pc's).

But trying to stay on topic, I do like the looks of the Omnia 2, and I love the screen, but it's just that keyboard. If the Omnia 2 had a keyboard, I would choose that over the TP2.

[Guest rumkokos]

But trying to stay on topic, I do like the looks of the Omnia 2, and I love the screen, but it's just that keyboard. If the Omnia 2 had a keyboard, I would choose that over the TP2.

Well you do have a OmniaPro version of Omnia II with a keyboard. However it has a 3.5 inch display and a very ugly design as far as i am concerned. So i agree with you if O II had a hardware keyboard it would have been a fantastic phone. But even tho, i decided to buy the omnia when it comes out because its got a 3.7 inch screen with a big resolution so u get similar typing expirience than on the iphone which is great. I think i'll live without the supremely fast typing on the TP2 and i'll get along with the new 6.5 winmo omnia. I see it will have some great support when its not even being released in many countries... i dont think many europe countries have it, and already chainfire and others are working on the device trying to have it flashed asap. I hope its gonna be great and have same or even more support than the curent omnia! :)

[Guest cocoaju]

I was a TP2 Owner!

My god! I have made the correct choice to change to O2.

TP2 Pro:

1. Nice looks

2. Nice feeling keyboard, nice to type with

3. Easy sms and communcation (threaded sms and faster than O2)

4. Fast and smooth UI

5. Tilt screen

6. Keyboard and arrow keys

7. Good GPS hardware

TP2 Cons:

1. The screen wobbles when you lift it up

2. The back of the screen scratches the keyboard when you open it

3. No dvix support

4. No flash support

5. Battery life sucks

6. Heavy

7. UI is not customable (you can't add new functions like widgets)

8. 3.5mm

9. No Amoled screen

10. 3.2 camera

11. No flash light

12. Crap radio software

13. No 8GB or 16GB internal memory

14. No 16m colour screen support (tho 6.1 only support 65k, hopefully 6.5 will support more colours cos O2 has 16m support)

[Guest Buck19]

I was a TP2 Owner!

My god! I have made the correct choice to change to O2.

TP2 Pro:

1. Nice looks

2. Nice feeling keyboard, nice to type with

3. Easy sms and communcation (threaded sms and faster than O2)

4. Fast and smooth UI

5. Tilt screen

6. Keyboard and arrow keys

7. Good GPS hardware

TP2 Cons:

1. The screen wobbles when you lift it up

***Very stable screen.

2. The back of the screen scratches the keyboard when you open it

***Never scratched my Touch Pro 2 keyboard ever.

3. No dvix support

***Can easily add dvix support to any windows mobile device

4. No flash support

***Can easily add Flash to any Windows Mobile device

5. Battery life sucks

***Can get a larger battery and also just apply an array of different tweaks to improve battery life.

6. Heavy

7. UI is not customable (you can't add new functions like widgets)

***There are a large array of widgets you can add to the HTC interface developed by windows mobile developers all over the net many free

8. 3.5mm

9. No Amoled screen

10. 3.2 camera

11. No flash light

12. Crap radio software

13. No 8GB or 16GB internal memory

***You can easily add up to 32GB of SD space which, unlike Android can contain installed programs. This works better than Iphone's fixed 8 or 16 gig of program space and the fact that you can only run one program at a time on Iphone really is a big problem.

14. No 16m colour screen support (tho 6.1 only support 65k, hopefully 6.5 will support more colours cos O2 has 16m support)

***All new Touch Pro 2's come with windows mobile 6.5 and it will be updated to Windows Mobile 7.0 when the time comes.

Just some points. You can hunt for things like Divx and widgets etc on developer boards by searching google, yahoo and other search engines. :)

Edited January 24, 2010 by Buck19