A few questions about i8000

[Guest sinancetinkaya]

Dear i8000 owners

Apparently, I might get an i8000 soon but I have a few questions that I don't know the answers

1. How is the touch sensivity ?

2. How is the battery life. Many owners say it's good but according to what? How many hours of wifi usage, gsm talk, movie watching etc?

3. Do most call recorders (vito, spb) work well ?

4. What are the free ram and free rom sizes with official rom

5. If anyone has done it, what are the spb benchmark scores of i8000 for each cpu speed setting (if it has, like powersave, speed,normal etc)

6. in your opinion, what are the most annoying things of i8000

According to your answers I'll decide whether to buy it or not

Edited November 11, 2009 by sinancetinkaya

[Guest Rothariger]

Dear i8000 owners

Apparently, I might get an i8000 soon but I have a few questions that I don't know the answers

1. How is the touch sensivity ?

its good enough, but it could be better...

2. How is the battery life. Many owners say it's good but according to what? How many hours of wifi usage, gsm talk, movie watching etc?

i use with fm radio all day and i charge the phone every 2 days. and if i use the wifi sometimes during my workday i must to charge the phone every day...

3. Do most call recorders (vito, spb) work well ?

i dont use it.

4. What are the free ram and free rom sizes with official rom

if you look at the secany's rom page they show information of the ram and rom of each rom.

5. If anyone has done it, what are the spb benchmark scores of i8000 for each cpu speed setting (if it has, like powersave, speed,normal etc)

this information sometimes is also in secanys post.

6. in your opinion, what are the most annoying things of i8000

no d-pad.

According to your answers I'll decide whether to buy it or not

Edited November 11, 2009 by Rothariger

[Guest awarner (MVP)]

Battery life for me is good, I have SPBmobileshell running plus can easily watch two films and play music for a few hours without worrying about charge levels.

While a D-pad would be nice for me it's not vital, the only two things I do not like is the Touchwiz front end homescreen and the Samsung keypad does not include a directional control.

Some parts of the Samsung UI are nice to use like the alarm screen and SMS menu etc, others are ok but Samsung really need to think about the end user and everyday use.

Overall it's still a very nice handset with only the HD2 as any real competition.

[Guest iWiNMo]

One more thing, answer to many of those questions depends on what ROM are you using/have flashed your O2 with?

here is my result, I'm getting an overall (battery life, memory, responces,..) better performance with IJ9 and haven't experienced a single crash, yet! So as long as you stick to Samsung official ROMs (i.e. IJ9, IJC) you will be safe or better to say you won't have much hassle, I guess! But if you like to explore around, you are welcome to experience working on Samsung original ROMs (i.e. IJ1, IJ3, IJ6, IJ13, IK1,...).

And yes, If I have to settle for any phone but O2, I would definitely go for HD2!!

[Guest sinancetinkaya]

Battery life for me is good, I have SPBmobileshell running plus can easily watch two films and play music for a few hours without worrying about charge levels.

While a D-pad would be nice for me it's not vital, the only two things I do not like is the Touchwiz front end homescreen and the Samsung keypad does not include a directional control.

Some parts of the Samsung UI are nice to use like the alarm screen and SMS menu etc, others are ok but Samsung really need to think about the end user and everyday use.

Overall it's still a very nice handset with only the HD2 as any real competition.

umm, battery life seems good

The only thing that annoyed me is benchmark scores. i8000 has 800mhz cpu but its bechmark score is 580-600 :)

TG01 and HTC leo have almost similar speed CPUs. Their scores are around 1400, not even close

Is there any possibility that its benchmark tests were being done in powersave mode or something like that ?

[Guest tacchan23]

umm, battery life seems good

The only thing that annoyed me is benchmark scores. i8000 has 800mhz cpu but its bechmark score is 580-600 :)

TG01 and HTC leo have almost similar speed CPUs. Their scores are around 1400, not even close

Is there any possibility that its benchmark tests were being done in powersave mode or something like that ?

I just tested it. (I have a lot of applications installed atm on my phone... it may slow it down a bit)

I got these results:

<misc-mflops>2730.100000</misc-mflops>

<misc-mops>771.100000</misc-mops>

<misc-mwips>4875.000000</misc-mwips>

Is these the numbers you looking for? HD2 scores 1400 on the MOPS?

Edited November 12, 2009 by tacchan23

[Guest Breit]

umm, battery life seems good

The only thing that annoyed me is benchmark scores. i8000 has 800mhz cpu but its bechmark score is 580-600 :)

TG01 and HTC leo have almost similar speed CPUs. Their scores are around 1400, not even close

Is there any possibility that its benchmark tests were being done in powersave mode or something like that ?

the i8000 is using an arm-11 core which is a kinda outdated processor architecture, hence the 'bad' raw crunching power...

i'm not quite sure what samsung drove to implement this into their flagship phones instead of a newer and far more powerful cortex a8 core (iphone 3gs, palm pre) or even a snapdragon (like in hd2 or tg01).

the arm-11 core is only a 1-issue in-order core unlike the cortex a8 or the snapdragon (2-issue), which means it can only fetch, decode and execute 1 risc instruction at a time instead of 2 risc instructions on the cortex a8. to make things worse, the arm-11 core has no l2-cache, of course unlike the cortex-a8 or the snapdragon which has 256kb l2.

so in short i'm not surprised by these performance numbers at all. i think they are totally in line with what the architecture can to.

if you are interested in a more in-depth review of the cortex a8 vs. arm-11 cores, there is a very good read over at anandtech.com about the iphone 3gs and its hardware: here you go!

Edited November 12, 2009 by Breit

[Guest sinancetinkaya]

the i8000 is using an arm-11 core which is a kinda outdated processor architecture, hence the 'bad' raw crunching power...

i'm not quite sure what samsung drove to implement this into their flagship phones instead of a newer and far more powerful cortex a8 core (iphone 3gs, palm pre) or even a snapdragon (like in hd2 or tg01).

the arm-11 core is only a 1-issue in-order core unlike the cortex a8 or the snapdragon (2-issue), which means it can only fetch, decode and execute 1 risc instruction at a time instead of 2 risc instructions on the cortex a8. to make things worse, the arm-11 core has no l2-cache, of course unlike the cortex-a8 or the snapdragon which has 256kb l2.

so in short i'm not surprised by these performance numbers at all. i think they are totally in line with what the architecture can to.

if you are interested in a more in-depth review of the cortex a8 vs. arm-11 cores, there is a very good read over at anandtech.com about the iphone 3gs and its hardware: here you go!

Your answer is exactly what I needed, thank you

[Guest sinancetinkaya]

Guys, what about the bluetooth audio routing problem that i900 has ?

Does i8000 have the same problem too ?

[Guest tacchan23]

Guys, what about the bluetooth audio routing problem that i900 has ?

Does i8000 have the same problem too ?

which problem? (didn't have i900)

for me bluetooth is working fine (listening music and calls)

[Guest MaliciousKen]

Your answer is exactly what I needed, thank you

You may want to read about the complaints about HD2

- http://www.modaco.com/content/leo-leo-moda...who-bought-one/

- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583281

- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=583338

- http://www.mobiletechworld.com/2009/11/11/...er-than-before/

Many more... Google them...

[Guest sinancetinkaya]

which problem? (didn't have i900)

for me bluetooth is working fine (listening music and calls)

i8000 doesn't have the problem then

Edited November 12, 2009 by sinancetinkaya

[Guest sinancetinkaya]

Guys, I'm really wondering that whether in call recorders work or not ?

Can anyone give them a try ?

[Guest tacchan23]

Guys, I'm really wondering that whether in call recorders work or not ?

Can anyone give them a try ?

I'll give it a try during the weekend, but why they should not be working?

[Guest sinancetinkaya]

I'll give it a try during the weekend, but why they should not be working?

Thanks

I used to use toshiba g900 before I bought i900. G900 let only one way call recording(only your voice)

I'm worried about i8000's having the same problem

[Guest tacchan23]

Thanks

I used to use toshiba g900 before I bought i900. G900 let only one way call recording(only your voice)

I'm worried about i8000's having the same problem

I tried this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=536472 (in the post they also say it's working for i8000)

The application itself it's not maybe the best (but free^^) but it's working good.

[Guest sinancetinkaya]

I tried this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=536472 (in the post they also say it's working for i8000)

The application itself it's not maybe the best (but free^^) but it's working good.

Does it record both person's voices ?

[Guest tacchan23]

mmm, today it's not working anymore at all... I also tried another application but still nothing.

I guess it may be a ROM problem, since yesterday I'm having many many crashes with IK1. I'll flash back to IJC and test it again.

[Guest tacchan23]

Really don't know anymore... my first try recording a call on IK1 rom worked fine. Then any other tries resulted in 0KB size files.

The same is happening now after flashing to IJC rom.

[Guest sinancetinkaya]

Today, I tested(didn't buy it) i8000 for a short while. First impressions are good. The only thing annoyed me is the samsung interface. Although it's finger friendly, I didn't like it. I'm going to make an ultraclean rom for i8000 too

I'm going to buy 16gb version but not yet, because 16 gb version is expensive. I'll wait a couple of months more

Edited November 26, 2009 by sinancetinkaya