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hi,

I'm running mcr3.0 on my gsm hero.

My 16gb sd card has 2 partitions:

1st: 15.4gb fat32

2nd: 512mb ext3

so the setup should be ok, right?

now, when i go to settings->SD card & phone storage under Internal phone storage i see 60mb available space.

when i install new apps, the 60mb decreases, but the value in SD card -> available space (11'715mb) stays unaffected. now i wonder, if the apps are installed on the sdcard, or on the phone memory...

please, could someone clarify this for me?

thanks

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Guest Dan Mullen
hi,

I'm running mcr3.0 on my gsm hero.

My 16gb sd card has 2 partitions:

1st: 15.4gb fat32

2nd: 512mb ext3

so the setup should be ok, right?

now, when i go to settings->SD card & phone storage under Internal phone storage i see 60mb available space.

when i install new apps, the 60mb decreases, but the value in SD card -> available space (11'715mb) stays unaffected. now i wonder, if the apps are installed on the sdcard, or on the phone memory...

please, could someone clarify this for me?

thanks

I suspect it's working. The SD available space won't change as that is only reporting the fat32 partition. The internal storage decreases as space is taken up by the dalvik-cache - this will decrease with each app you install, even when using apps2sd.

You can check by opening an adb shell and looking in /system/sd/app - you should see your .apk files there :)

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thanks!

The SD available space won't change as that is only reporting the fat32 partition. The internal storage decreases as space is taken up by the dalvik-cache - this will decrease with each app you install, even when using apps2sd.

I totally forgot about that.

I'm wondering, why there's only 60mb left. Sure, I have lots of apps installed (about 20), but still...

Besides of the cache, what else takes away the internal space? like all the HTC apps, rosie... is that all?

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The best way to see if app2sd is working is by taking the sd card out and see what apps don't work. If all apps are still working apps arn't being stored on sd.

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If you have 20 apps and down to 60mb I don't think it is working correctly I have over 130 apps and 86mb of internal memory left. But I do have all caches on sd as well as davlik cache.

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If you have 20 apps and down to 60mb I don't think it is working correctly I have over 130 apps and 86mb of internal memory left. But I do have all caches on sd as well as davlik cache.

yeah, that did the trick. there's some apps on sd and some that aren't... Now, I'm sure there is somewhere a thread that shows how to transfer the apps to sd... thanks!

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yeah, that did the trick. there's some apps on sd and some that aren't... Now, I'm sure there is somewhere a thread that shows how to transfer the apps to sd... thanks!

Personally I have around 100 apps installed and, after clearing lots of caches, I have around 30MB internal storage free. IIRC, the apps that come with the ROM sit in /system/app, whereas those you install are transferred to your ext partition.

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yeah, that did the trick. there's some apps on sd and some that aren't... Now, I'm sure there is somewhere a thread that shows how to transfer the apps to sd... thanks!

Apps2sd is automatic I not do it in amon recovery 1.5.2 theres an option in there somewhere.

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IIRC, the apps that come with the ROM sit in /system/app, whereas those you install are transferred to your ext partition.

not entirely true, but a valid answer. there are a few apps that come with the rom that are installed in /data/app, but apps2sd takes care of that and moves them to the sdcard. new apps which you install through the market go directly to your sdcard.

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not entirely true, but a valid answer. there are a few apps that come with the rom that are installed in /data/app, but apps2sd takes care of that and moves them to the sdcard. new apps which you install through the market go directly to your sdcard.

Well this is interesting, unless we have our wires crossed! My /data/app is correctly just a symlink to /system/sd/app and works fine. I was talking about the .apk files in /system/app:

# cd /system/app

cd /system/app

# ls

ls

AccountManager.apk				 HtcSettingsProvider.apk

AndroidNotes.apk				   HtcSoundRecorder.apk

BizCardReader.apk				  HtcStreamPlayer.apk

Browser.apk						HtcTwitter.apk

Calculator.apk					 ImProvider.apk

Calendar.apk					   Jbed.apk

CalendarProvider.apk			   Launcher.apk

CertificateService.apk			 Mail.apk

CheckinProvider.apk				MediaProvider.apk

Clicker.apk						MediaUploader.apk

CustomizationSettingsProvider.apk  Mms.apk

CustomizationSetup.apk			 NetworkLocation.apk

DCSCHT.apk						 PDFViewer.apk

DCSGeocode.apk					 PackageInstaller.apk

DCSImpl.apk						Phone.apk

DCSReverseGeocode.apk			  Rosie.apk

DCSStock.apk					   Settings.apk

DCSUtility.apk					 SettingsProvider.apk

DCSWeather.apk					 SetupWizard.apk

DownloadProvider.apk			   SocialNetworkProvider.apk

DrmProvider.apk					Stk.apk

FilePicker.apk					 Stock.apk

FlashPlayer.apk					Street.apk

GSD.apk							Superuser.apk

Gmail.apk						  Talk.apk

GmailProvider.apk				  TelephonyProvider.apk

GoogleApps.apk					 Updater.apk

GoogleContactsProvider.apk		 UploadProvider.apk

GooglePartnerSetup.apk			 UserDictionaryProvider.apk

GoogleSearch.apk				   Vending.apk

GoogleSettingsProvider.apk		 Weather.apk

GoogleSubscribedFeedsProvider.apk  WeatherProvider.apk

HTCAlbum.apk					   WorldClock.apk

HTCCamera.apk					  YouTube.apk

HTCNew.apk						 checkin.apk

HTCSetupWizard.apk				 com.htc.MusicWidget.apk

HTC_IME.apk						com.htc.StockWidget.apk

HTMLViewer.apk					 com.htc.TwitterWidget.apk

HtcAddProgramWidget.apk			com.htc.WeatherWidget.apk

HtcClockWidget.apk				 com.wsandroid.apk

HtcContacts.apk					gtalkservice.apk

HtcFootprints.apk				  htcbookmarkwidget.apk

HtcFootprintsWidget.apk			htccalendarwidgets.apk

HtcLocationPicker.apk			  htccontactwidgets.apk

HtcLocationService.apk			 htcmailwidgets.apk

HtcLockScreen.apk				  htcmsgwidgets.apk

HtcMusic.apk					   htcsearchwidgets.apk

HtcPhotoWidget.apk				 htcsettingwidgets.apk

HtcRingtoneTrimmer.apk			 teeter.apk

Obviously as they sit in /system they won't be taking up any of the internal storage space reported by the phone as this is just /data. Are you saying that these should have been moved? I don't see any reason for these to be moved from their current location.

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Well this is interesting, unless we have our wires crossed! My /data/app is correctly just a symlink to /system/sd/app and works fine. I was talking about the .apk files in /system/app:

# cd /system/app

cd /system/app

# ls

ls

AccountManager.apk				 HtcSettingsProvider.apk

AndroidNotes.apk				   HtcSoundRecorder.apk

BizCardReader.apk				  HtcStreamPlayer.apk

Browser.apk						HtcTwitter.apk

Calculator.apk					 ImProvider.apk

Calendar.apk					   Jbed.apk

CalendarProvider.apk			   Launcher.apk

CertificateService.apk			 Mail.apk

CheckinProvider.apk				MediaProvider.apk

Clicker.apk						MediaUploader.apk

CustomizationSettingsProvider.apk  Mms.apk

CustomizationSetup.apk			 NetworkLocation.apk

DCSCHT.apk						 PDFViewer.apk

DCSGeocode.apk					 PackageInstaller.apk

DCSImpl.apk						Phone.apk

DCSReverseGeocode.apk			  Rosie.apk

DCSStock.apk					   Settings.apk

DCSUtility.apk					 SettingsProvider.apk

DCSWeather.apk					 SetupWizard.apk

DownloadProvider.apk			   SocialNetworkProvider.apk

DrmProvider.apk					Stk.apk

FilePicker.apk					 Stock.apk

FlashPlayer.apk					Street.apk

GSD.apk							Superuser.apk

Gmail.apk						  Talk.apk

GmailProvider.apk				  TelephonyProvider.apk

GoogleApps.apk					 Updater.apk

GoogleContactsProvider.apk		 UploadProvider.apk

GooglePartnerSetup.apk			 UserDictionaryProvider.apk

GoogleSearch.apk				   Vending.apk

GoogleSettingsProvider.apk		 Weather.apk

GoogleSubscribedFeedsProvider.apk  WeatherProvider.apk

HTCAlbum.apk					   WorldClock.apk

HTCCamera.apk					  YouTube.apk

HTCNew.apk						 checkin.apk

HTCSetupWizard.apk				 com.htc.MusicWidget.apk

HTC_IME.apk						com.htc.StockWidget.apk

HTMLViewer.apk					 com.htc.TwitterWidget.apk

HtcAddProgramWidget.apk			com.htc.WeatherWidget.apk

HtcClockWidget.apk				 com.wsandroid.apk

HtcContacts.apk					gtalkservice.apk

HtcFootprints.apk				  htcbookmarkwidget.apk

HtcFootprintsWidget.apk			htccalendarwidgets.apk

HtcLocationPicker.apk			  htccontactwidgets.apk

HtcLocationService.apk			 htcmailwidgets.apk

HtcLockScreen.apk				  htcmsgwidgets.apk

HtcMusic.apk					   htcsearchwidgets.apk

HtcPhotoWidget.apk				 htcsettingwidgets.apk

HtcRingtoneTrimmer.apk			 teeter.apk

Obviously as they sit in /system they won't be taking up any of the internal storage space reported by the phone as this is just /data. Are you saying that these should have been moved? I don't see any reason for these to be moved from their current location.

No dude they are in the right place they shouldn't have been moved there in the Rom /system/app, anything you install yourself gets put in data/app which is linked to system/sd/app but kendon is right has some apps on the Rom like browser, maps, wifinder get stored on data/app.

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No dude they are in the right place they shouldn't have been moved there in the Rom /system/app, anything you install yourself gets put in data/app which is linked to system/sd/app but kendon is right has some apps on the Rom like browser, maps, wifinder get stored on data/app.

/data/app is just a symlink to /system/sd/app. As you can see, the browser and all the other "system" stuff - plus some extras added by Paul - sit in /system/app.

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Another silly question:

Are these ROMs signed with test keys? If not, will it make a difference if I sign my own zip with testsign, which uses test keys?

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