Guest Mr.r9 Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 Hello Modaco users. I have 2 problems with my Liquid: 1) The microphone is tooooooo sensitive; meaning that even the slightest ambient sound is caught while talking. 2) The volume at which I can play music, or set a ringtone to, must not exceed half the meter or else the back speaker starts to crackle(high pitched sound). Actually I am surprised how Acer made the volume as high as it is because the speaker can get damaged. I bought my Liquid online because it's not sold here in UAE and therefore shipping will be a big hassle, so if someone knows how to solve this, or knows what to edit, then please help! Thanks in advance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neferym Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 Hello Modaco users. I have 2 problems with my Liquid: 1) The microphone is tooooooo sensitive; meaning that even the slightest ambient sound is caught while talking. 2) The volume at which I can play music, or set a ringtone to, must not exceed half the meter or else the back speaker starts to crackle(high pitched sound). Actually I am surprised how Acer made the volume as high as it is because the speaker can get damaged. I bought my Liquid online because it's not sold here in UAE and therefore shipping will be a big hassle, so if someone knows how to solve this, or knows what to edit, then please help! Thanks in advance! hi, try setting->call setting->advance. There is some params. Neferym Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mr.r9 Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 ^The settings in there do not help me, but thanks for trying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MrVanes Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 I don't know if this is related, but 9 out of 10 callers complain about my signal/sound being extremely uncomprehensible. One more technical inclined person described the problem as the outgoing signal (i.e. my voice) is distorted by over amplification. I use the same volume and distance to the mic as my old N70 where I had no complaints btw. Does anybody else experience these problems, or hear these complaints? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest skeve Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 I don't know if this is related, but 9 out of 10 callers complain about my signal/sound being extremely uncomprehensible. One more technical inclined person described the problem as the outgoing signal (i.e. my voice) is distorted by over amplification. I use the same volume and distance to the mic as my old N70 where I had no complaints btw. Does anybody else experience these problems, or hear these complaints? Actually I have the same problem. I have to lower my voice while speaking and keep the mic far form my mouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mr.r9 Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 MrVanes & skeve the same issue happens with me. My friends always tell me that my voice is loud & that they hear other surrounding sounds! I have a feeling that this issue is universal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MrVanes Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 Would this thread be any help? I wonder if there's a way to tone *down* the mic amp a little this way? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4689247 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mr.r9 Posted January 25, 2010 Report Share Posted January 25, 2010 The way I see it, someone will have to edit the AudioFilter.csv file in system/etc folder. I read this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=517745 , but since I have zero understanding of what's going on, someone more experienced will have to be our savior! Or, anyone who doesn't suffer from thins can upload his 'working' AudioFilter.csv file. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest skeve Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 The way I see it, someone will have to edit the AudioFilter.csv file in system/etc folder. I read this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=517745 , but since I have zero understanding of what's going on, someone more experienced will have to be our savior! Or, anyone who doesn't suffer from thins can upload his 'working' AudioFilter.csv file. I tried to upload the file from G1 device to my liquid, but that didn't help. I couldn't find which parameters control the mic. I hope someone without this problem will publish his AudioFilter.csv file so we could find out the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MrVanes Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 I fixed it using the 3 files offered in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=549837 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mr.r9 Posted January 26, 2010 Report Share Posted January 26, 2010 Are you sure that these files work properly on the Liquid? Did people tell you that they hear you clearly? Thanks MrVanes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MrVanes Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 Well.. question 1 is definitely yes, because I can still use my phone. For the second question I still have to do some fieldwork... my wife's first impression (of the sound) was 'good', but a colleague this morning heard 'little' improvement, and I still sounded as if I was standing in the bathroom (I wasn't). I made a backup of the original AudioFilter.csv, so I can always revert back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pushedray Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 Well.. question 1 is definitely yes, because I can still use my phone. For the second question I still have to do some fieldwork... my wife's first impression (of the sound) was 'good', but a colleague this morning heard 'little' improvement, and I still sounded as if I was standing in the bathroom (I wasn't). I made a backup of the original AudioFilter.csv, so I can always revert back. could you upload those backup files, i forgot to take a backup on mine. For now it works but in case of any problems. over and out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MrVanes Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 (edited) I'll see to that later, but for now: what's your impression of the fix? I'm so frustrated with the fact that I have to rely other people's subjective opinion to know whether there's progress or not...AudioFilter.csv.zip Edited January 27, 2010 by MrVanes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pushedray Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 (edited) same here dono if it works but people i call say it´s slightly better, but it could be the update from 104 to 205 that made the difference. thx for the backup :) Edited January 27, 2010 by Pushedray Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MrVanes Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 I had a decent talk with the technical inclined friend and he calls it 'different' but far from good. So, I call this a change, not a fix... It tells me we're barking up the right tree, but probably have to find out the meaning of the different parameters in the file to make it work. Blocking the mic-hole didn't help, but speaking in the phone from afar, using speaker mode made a big difference (for the good). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mr.r9 Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 Bloody Acer. Did they even test 1 phone before releasing? I mean a mobile phone with bad call quality is...stupid! Anyway, you're right MrVanes, someone who understands the .csv file should take a look & help :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MrVanes Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 I did a little more research tonight and it might not be completely Acer to blame... there seem to be several AudioPara*.csv files floating around the net and they have different names according to provider and country (_VODA-SFR.csv, _VODA-Germany.csv etc). So there seems more to that file than meets the eye. I suspect we need to look for a AudioPara* file that matches our network as close as possible, that's why the phone tries to load a network specific file before falling back to AudioPara4. Right now I'm testing _VODA-SFR (saved as AudioPara4.csv) because I'm on Vodafone Netherlands and hope it's close enough. If anyone has a AudioPara_VODA-NL.csv or AudioPara_VODA-Netherlands.csv lying around, that would probably make my day?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mr.r9 Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 So the microphone volume &/or the speaker volume depend on which network you are using? I don't think that makes sense MrVanes. But as you said MrVanes, even if we tested various *.csv files, having to rely on other people's subjective opinion to know whether there's progress or not will be hard. That's the job of a tester! Please Liquid users check your AudioPara*.csv or AudioFilter in system/etc & upload them here if you think that audio works 'correctly' on your device. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MrVanes Posted January 30, 2010 Report Share Posted January 30, 2010 So the microphone volume &/or the speaker volume depend on which network you are using? I don't think that makes sense MrVanes. No, I think the distortion caused by wrong audio parameters depends on the network you're using. Please Liquid users check your AudioPara*.csv or AudioFilter in system/etc & upload them here if you think that audio works 'correctly' on your device. There is no network branded Liquid (yet) as far as I know, so I think we all have the same AudioPara* files in there... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MrVanes Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 (edited) But as you said MrVanes, even if we tested various *.csv files, having to rely on other people's subjective opinion to know whether there's progress or not will be hard. That's the job of a tester! I found a way to test sound quality: I call my home (VOIP) number and wait for it to fall into voicemail. The provider then immediately sends me an e-mail with the voicemail as an attachment :) Edited January 31, 2010 by MrVanes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mr.r9 Posted January 31, 2010 Report Share Posted January 31, 2010 That's really smart :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MrVanes Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 It may be smart, but it's not satisfactory. It seems that the voicemail I receive is not a measure for the problems people experience. There's probably a lot of (high frequency) filtering involved in the voicemail processing, which is less in person to person conversations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MrVanes Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 I just installed the V2r2 files from the G7- zip from this thread and am getting pretty positive feedback from 2 very critical listeners, could anyone following this thread try the same? http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=517745 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mr.r9 Posted February 1, 2010 Report Share Posted February 1, 2010 I'll use V2r2, and within a few days i'll give a reply here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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