Win6.5 vs. Win6.5.3 vs. Win7

[Guest Gary Crutcher]

This was posted on Engadget.

This is a comparison of core OS functionality and differences,

handset skins and carrier tweaks aren't factored in.

Notice the minimum screen resolution and that you cannot skin the today screen.

[Guest DunKnow]

May i know is WM6.5.3 still 65k colour? I saw on gsm arena that WM6.5.3 is 256k colour. WM7 should be 16 million colour right?

[Guest darkworldzz]

lol @ fingerfriendly=no

:D :D :lol: :lol:

[Guest skoda60]

This was posted on Engadget.

This is a comparison of core OS functionality and differences,

handset skins and carrier tweaks aren't factored in.

Notice the minimum screen resolution and that you cannot skin the today screen.

Correct me if I was wrong. wm7 will be like apple iPhone. No more 3rd party software to install. A single task machine like apple. wm6.5 and 6.5.x still can run few tasks together.

Microsoft see more iPhone sale then wm phone and can make more money.

Oomnia2 was my last wm OS phone.

[Guest eXen The Cracker]

i will never ever buy wm phone anymore. i want to load android to my omnia II.

[Guest xaznxplaya]

Will jailbreak come to WM7? >_> Kinda deceiving to see where WM is going to.

[Guest xos84292]

May i know is WM6.5.3 still 65k colour? I saw on gsm arena that WM6.5.3 is 256k colour. WM7 should be 16 million colour right?

WM6 6.1 6.5 6.5.3 is 65K

CE 5.2 ONLY have 65K colour

[Guest Nathan V]

Correct me if I was wrong. wm7 will be like apple iPhone. No more 3rd party software to install. A single task machine like apple. wm6.5 and 6.5.x still can run few tasks together.

Microsoft see more iPhone sale then wm phone and can make more money.

Oomnia2 was my last wm OS phone.

3rd party software will be supported for sure. It will require some modification to fit the new OS.

http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=13384

[Guest Gary Crutcher]

Correct me if I was wrong. wm7 will be like apple iPhone. No more 3rd party software to install. A single task machine like apple. wm6.5 and 6.5.x still can run few tasks together.

Microsoft see more iPhone sale then wm phone and can make more money.

Oomnia2 was my last wm OS phone.

Same for me - O2 is my last Windows phone.

When Samsung comes out with the new Samsung i8520, running android

with the new super AMOLED screen, I will buy one.

Note: SPB Mobile Shell 5.0 will work on android when it is released.

Edited February 17, 2010 by Gary Crutcher

[Guest skoda60]

When I flashed wm6.5 for those version before JA5, only used for about one hour and flashed back to wm6.1 IH5. Now I can live with JA5, JB1 ROM in one condition that I need a soft reset when started a new section. Else it will closing down my application very frequently, yet I still have about 50mb free program memory at that time. Those tweak on lowmem etc not worked for me.

I was very sick on WM6.5, I need to check Free RAM by using cleanRAM 1.94 and freeupRAM, but still not so effective then soft reset. After boot I had 85mb so good, but after using few programs. closed down, cleanRAM and I only left about 65mb.

With this phenomenon I have no mood to install SPB mobile shell those beautiful UI. Used only Resco Today.

Heard about wm7 news, I will never think of WM phone any more like I walked away from Symbian UIQ3, even not considered to buy any SE phone. Even now there used WM plateform.

I saw somewhere there are a dual OS PDA. The android and WM like our multi OS in PC. Hope to see in future a high end zero OS PDA with the manufacturer provide few OS for us to choose. Or hardware drivers for android.

[Guest Carlos Sun]

WM6 6.1 6.5 6.5.3 is 65K

CE 5.2 ONLY have 65K colour

not completely right, CE 5.2 does support more 65k colors actually , like 24bit and 32bit,

but for some reasons, WM 6.X only shows 65k colors in other to get the better performance

[Guest gt100]

i will never ever buy wm phone anymore.

Bye bye WM welcome to the Android world

[Guest surethom]

Windows 7 not skinable so by by Win mobile, the i8000 will be my last windows mobile phones, only Android & Symbian^4 (when released) from now on. Microsoft may gain more uses but lose more than they gain.

Silly microsoft.

[Guest Imad MWK]

for me ..

Omnia 2 is my first windows mobile phone, well, its the last, next phone going to Android or BACK to symbian.

6 years of symbian with complete satisfactions, 3 month of WM with complete regret

[Guest triplex76]

for me ..

Omnia 2 is my first windows mobile phone, well, its the last, next phone going to Android or BACK to symbian.

6 years of symbian with complete satisfactions, 3 month of WM with complete regret

oh this statament is pretty funny...

symbian is simply a joke when compared to what you are able to do/find/customize on a wm phone... i know that for a simple user symbian is better... but for advanced simply WM!

today I tried my buddy N97, a COMPLETELY SHITTY phone, completely bugged, slower than a crappy wm 2003 phone , with a shitty touchscreen that needs lot of force, and a simply shitty contrast too

Edited February 17, 2010 by triplex76

[Guest XeOS]

All,

read well before you start complaining, this might very well be the thing we have all been waiting for. What is better than WinMo 6x:

- Finally a fast and responsive UI

- XNA (games)

- Silverlight

- Fully integrated social networking

- Very rich Office experience

- Cloud

- Zune

- All kinds of native supported sensors

- Great set of minimum hardware specs

- Xbox Live native support

- Unified platform, meaning every app will work on whatever Phone 7 device you'll use (FINALLY!)

- 32 bit colors

- Capacitive screen

- 4-point multitouch

- Old apps will work once they've been ported to the new UI

Basically you'll get everything that is great about iPhone, Android, WinMo but all the annoying stuff with WinMo will be gone (vendor specific drivers, apps not working, slow UI, crappy memory management, etc)

As for skinning, this IS possible and if you're talking about another UI you will be able to do that in the future, just not at launch as they want a unified experience to make sure the platform will land.

The only negative thing I can think of is minimum multi-tasking and no clarity on what can and what cannot run at the same time.

[Guest DunKnow]

I have a very very very good experience of Windows Mobile when i first used HTC Touch. Despite of its 200MHz cpu, i love it to bits. Then i headed down to Android, the customization is also quite limited. Then i decided to let Windows Mobile another go because of the experience i had from HTC Touch. Mostly all of our Omnia II is less than half a year old, and now Microsoft decides to leave us just like that. It is very very disappointing. I would gadly return back to Android then, if Windows Mobile 7 cannot have much freedom in customization.

[Guest XeOS]

I have a very very very good experience of Windows Mobile when i first used HTC Touch. Despite of its 200MHz cpu, i love it to bits. Then i headed down to Android, the customization is also quite limited. Then i decided to let Windows Mobile another go because of the experience i had from HTC Touch. Mostly all of our Omnia II is less than half a year old, and now Microsoft decides to leave us just like that. It is very very disappointing. I would gadly return back to Android then, if Windows Mobile 7 cannot have much freedom in customization.

I honestly don't get this. What customization are you talking about? The entire 'Today' screen of Windows Phone 7 is customizable, it's basically widgets only, you just cannot change the core UI from the start, but in a year after release vendors can put their Sense/WidgetPlus/etc... back in.

MS leaving us? They are finally answering and coming back to us. Finally developers will find it easy again to create apps, UI's and games for Windows Phone as they will work on ANY Windows Phone 7 device.

[Guest DunKnow]

I mean customizations for WM6.5, we can change the taskbar,today screen,etc. Would Microsoft continue to develop WM6.5.5? For our current Omnia II, we would not be really able to update to Windows Mobile 7, thus it is a waste for us Omnia II users. I have another question, would we be able to change the square blue buttons of the homescreen of Windows Mobile 7 into another completely new interface just like the old Windows Mobile?

[Guest Ender Psp]

All,

read well before you start complaining, this might very well be the thing we have all been waiting for. What is better than WinMo 6x:

- Finally a fast and responsive UI

- XNA (games)

- Silverlight

- Fully integrated social networking

- Very rich Office experience

- Cloud

- Zune

- All kinds of native supported sensors

- Great set of minimum hardware specs

- Xbox Live native support

- Unified platform, meaning every app will work on whatever Phone 7 device you'll use (FINALLY!)

- 32 bit colors

- Capacitive screen

- 4-point multitouch

- Old apps will work once they've been ported to the new UI

Basically you'll get everything that is great about iPhone, Android, WinMo but all the annoying stuff with WinMo will be gone (vendor specific drivers, apps not working, slow UI, crappy memory management, etc)

As for skinning, this IS possible and if you're talking about another UI you will be able to do that in the future, just not at launch as they want a unified experience to make sure the platform will land.

The only negative thing I can think of is minimum multi-tasking and no clarity on what can and what cannot run at the same time.

+1

Btw, they said this is in works still, so expect more things to happen. For me, this is a step forward. I might not like the change, but I didn't like the change

from DOS/Win3 to Win95 either... but it proved to be a good choice (for me). I personally think it will support multitasking, and I'll give a quick example: a document opened from mail. If it would be monotasking, it would have to close the e-mail client first... so, don't bet on monotasking yet. On such a powerful CPU requirement, all that for just the interface and 1 app? I don't think so.

Also, a thing to remember. You can tile apps, your own apps. So that in a way is skinning. We'll have to see more, but for me that's promising. No more need to hack a 3rd party app to do something, just implement a new one that is easy to adapt to specs.

And as a final thought, with a powerful CPU, comes a promise of better games and gaming experience. And I'm sure that if a proper marketplace is in the works, to entice programmers to code for the WM7 platform.

What I would like some of you that now cry wolf to see, is that Android platform is very much like this now. So, before trade apples for pears, I'm going to wait and see what the actual OS is capable of and all the implications. Moving to another platform in spite or because of having regrets over a short period of time invested in WM platform means you didn't care much for the platform. I'm with WM from 2003 and will stay with WM unless it doesn't do what I like: play media and office work. Until then, I'm happy they're taking a step forward. Where it's taking us... we'll have to see.

[Guest Imad MWK]

oh this statament is pretty funny...

symbian is simply a joke when compared to what you are able to do/find/customize on a wm phone... i know that for a simple user symbian is better... but for advanced simply WM!

today I tried my buddy N97, a COMPLETELY SHITTY phone, completely bugged, slower than a crappy wm 2003 phone , with a shitty touchscreen that needs lot of force, and a simply shitty contrast too

Agree that n97 is total shitty, this phone is a crap, but leave the N series and check E series, Very faster performance and stability, I've used E71 for two years and it was legendary phone, much faster typing via QWERTY keyboard, very fast performance, leave the wireless connected for days without battery loss, and even if you opened 10 programs at the same time , the performance is the same

and for abilities, man , they run win 3.11 over symbian, even old dos games without a problem, not to mention that symbian support 16 million color, unlike WM

[Guest bennyx8903]

to be honest i dont see anything wrong with O2 with 6.5. except the ram is kind of small. But even that, the phone is very fast. I can do pretty much anything i want to do with a phone. And most of these things can't be done on iphone/android. listed is a few:

#1 no conversion video play back. I can play freaking MKV using coreplayer with no lag on O2. not to mention divx/xvid. iphone has a nice interface but mp4 only?? wtf? android isn't even worth mentioning

#2 today screen customization. i don't know about you guys, but my first windows mobile was purchased as a "agenda planner" i used it all the time to keep me on top of appointments, tests, hw, work. being able to customize the homescreen to show everything in detail is a big deal for me. the default calendar from wm6.1 is already really good. but using SPB mobile shell and various other today customization app, wm is unmatched as a agenda

#3 outlook sync. I use outlook 2007 for calendar and email. and it's such a breeze to have all your phone information backed up everytime you connect your phone to the pc.

#4 and finally, i'm not sure if this is something i should say here. but pretty much EVERYTHING (apps) i want on WM can be found cracked. free. games, SPB, whatever. it's so easy too. i don't even want to know how to do this on android and iphone. so complicated.

so for me. WM7 isn't really what i want, or android, or iphone. sure i would like my phone to be simpler and smoother, but i can't sacrifice the above 4 things to make that compromise.

IDEALLY, i would have WM that updates over the air like WebOS, stable and smooth like iPhone OS, music and video interface of iPhone.

since none of the above is possible, i will jsut wait and hope that someone smart can port ZUNE from WM7 to 6.5. then my O2 would be perfect.

[Guest Gary Crutcher]

Ok, here's an update on Windows Mobile 7 courtesy of Engadget:

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[Guest Gary Crutcher]

Windows Phone 7 development docs leaked?

Windows Phone 7 development docs leaked?

Again, courtesy of Engadget.

[Guest Gary Crutcher]

Windows Mobile 6.5 To Be Renamed Windows Phone "Classic" Instead of "Disliked Immensely"

Win6.5 Renamed Windows Phone "Classic"

Courtesy of Engadget.