Charging for the first time.

[Guest pablos]

Hi!

Finally, i'm a happy i8000 owner :D

The device is brand new and ready for first start. It has obviusly li-ion battery and so my question is:

what to do now? charge it till it's full or use it till it's dead and than charge?

I've recently read that li-ion batteries shouldn't be used till device turns itself off, but i wanted to be sure and ask some experienced users.

BTW

It's my first WM and touchscreen device, so please be understanding :D

[Guest meabigbaldguy]

Hi!

Finally, i'm a happy i8000 owner :D

The device is brand new and ready for first start. It has obviusly li-ion battery and so my question is:

what to do now? charge it till it's full or use it till it's dead and than charge?

I've recently read that li-ion batteries shouldn't be used till device turns itself off, but i wanted to be sure and ask some experienced users.

BTW

It's my first WM and touchscreen device, so please be understanding :D

For the very first charge, you should let it charge for about 10 straight hours to take advantage of the battery's "memory" effect. Other than that, you should be okay.

[Guest Snow02]

For the very first charge, you should let it charge for about 10 straight hours to take advantage of the battery's "memory" effect. Other than that, you should be okay.

Li-polymer batteries have no memory effect. And in fact, there's a charging circuit in any device that utilizes these batteries that stops charging the battery when full (otherwise they explode). So leaving it on the charger once it indicates it's full does nothing. Just to recap for those who may not know:

Don't discharge your battery all the way. There is no memory, and small frequent charges are preferable to letting it run extremely low.

Don't subject it to extreme heat (car charging + sun exposure/heavy usage is not an ideal scenario)

If you will not use the battery for an extended period of time (1 week+), leave it with 40-60% charge. Not full.

If you're reasonably mindful of these you can expect your battery to maintain 90% of initital capacity after a year.

If you want more info. Ask any dedicated RC enthusiast. You'll get more than you ever cared to know about battery care I'm sure.

[Guest awarner (MVP)]

When the phone is new, unless it's been sitting on a storage shelf for a long time the battery will be pretty much full and will require no more than four hours at most.

It is worth giving the battery a condition charge once in a while, in other words an overnight charge which just tops up and gives an on off trickle charge.

Running the battery low and trying to discharge it will damage the capacitance which once damaged can never be repaired. Even Li-ion batteries do have a memory effect but is so much less pronounced than the older Ni-Cd and Ni-mh that it is not really noticable especially over the normal life of the battery.

In reality it is almost impossible to under charge or over charge a Li-ion battery as they have protection circuitry built into them. It is only the cheap knock-off grey imports from China etc that have poor or almost no protection which leads to very dangerous batteries that can overheat,leak or even explode.

Personally I would avoid the cheap Ebay batteries, they are cheap for a good reason.

[Guest awarner (MVP)]

Also the battieries are technically designed to last 500 charges anything more is a bonus, but looking after them will make them last for years. My old C550 was still running well and only retired after getting my Omnia 2.

[Guest meabigbaldguy]

Also the battieries are technically designed to last 500 charges anything more is a bonus, but looking after them will make them last for years. My old C550 was still running well and only retired after getting my Omnia 2.

Advice here is incredibly diverse and for the most part sound. Chances are you won't go wrong with anything that's being recommended to you here. For example, I'm learning something new with Snow's posting - and I'm an microelectronics engineer! Choose wisely though nonetheless.

[Guest awarner (MVP)]

Also don't forget the Omnia 2 has Li-ion battery and not a Li-pol as mentioned in Snow02's post, unless the Verizon model has been given an upgrade?

The advantage with Li-pol is that it can be moulded into various shapes rather than standard cell type design. The disadvantage is they can be more unstable and are more expensive than Li-ion.

[Guest Snow02]

Yes, the i920 has a Li-po battery.

[Guest heretic2006]

Yes, the i920 has a Li-po battery.

i8000 has a li-ion

[Guest awarner (MVP)]

Yes, the i920 has a Li-po battery.

Nice, what's the rating and actual battery life like?

The i8000 has 150mAh interestingly they also give a 5.55Wh rating which you do not normally see.

[Guest Snow02]

Nice, what's the rating and actual battery life like?

The i8000 has 150mAh interestingly they also give a 5.55Wh rating which you do not normally see.

Same 1500mAh 5.55Wh.