Opera Mini 5 or/vs Opera Mobile 10....?

[Guest dwallersv]

I just got up to speed on what Opera Mini 5 is (see here for a quick discussion of the difference), downloaded and installed Mini 5, and have been playing with it.

For the lazy, the main difference is page rendering occurs on a server at opera.com, sending a compact, proprietary markup to the lightweight client on your phone for display. This is supposedly faster, and of course the client has a smaller footprint.

MY IMPRESSIONS

The advertised benefits seem to be legit, after using Mini for a half hour or so to browse many of my frequently visited websites, and trying to hit a range of simple to very complex pages. Browsing and rendering are noticably faster, likely due to the speed of the server renderer and the smaller data size that must then be downloaded to the client*.

The features, interface, etc., seems almost identical to me -- at least to the extent that my use has exposed me.

Most exciting to me, the RAM footprint is a fraction of what Opera Mobile 10 takes -- like 20%. This makes it much more practical to leave the browser active while task-switching to other activities, without it being at risk of closing (even with the must-have patch from Chainfire), and even if it doesn't get closed, the low-memory situation O10 virtually guarantees degrades performance.

This is important to me, because I run an Orb server for accessing my media library, so switching back and forth between the player (CorePlayer), and the browser is a valuable convenience.

I've noticed some minor rendering differences, but nothing so far that is objectionable. I plan to use Mini for a while as my default browser to give it a more thorough test-drive. In the mean time, I'd like to hear from others that are using Mini 5, if you've been a Mobile 9/10 user and your compare/contrast impressions, etc.

Thanks!

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*HTML, being a human-readable text markup, is very inefficient; for example, consider that in a binary-coded token-based markup, a tag like <TABLE>, 7 bytes minimum, can be encoded in a 2-byte binary token allowing for 65536 possible tokens, reducing the data sent to about 25% for that token; with style-sheet formatting, ubiquitous today, the potential compression given the long human-readable commands is even greater.

Edited March 30, 2010 by dwallersv

[Guest ad720]

I see very little real world difference. I think Mini 5 starts faster. I would use it instead of Mobile 10 but there seems to be a bug with Mini 5 not working globally as the default browser (specifically opening links from emails).

[Guest ronalgps]

I just got up to speed on what Opera Mini 5 is (see here for a quick discussion of the difference), downloaded and installed Mini 5, and have been playing with it.

For the lazy, the main difference is page rendering occurs on a server at opera.com, sending a compact, proprietary markup to the lightweight client on your phone for display. This is supposedly faster, and of course the client has a smaller footprint.

MY IMPRESSIONS

The advertised benefits seem to be legit, after using Mini for a half hour or so to browse many of my frequently visited websites, and trying to hit a range of simple to very complex pages. Browsing and rendering are noticably faster, likely due to the speed of the server renderer and the smaller data size that must then be downloaded to the client*.

The features, interface, etc., seems almost identical to me -- at least to the extent that my use has exposed me.

Most exciting to me, the RAM footprint is a fraction of what Opera Mobile 10 takes -- like 20%. This makes it much more practical to leave the browser active while task-switching to other activities, without it being at risk of closing (even with the must-have patch from Chainfire), and even if it doesn't get closed, the low-memory situation O10 virtually guarantees degrades performance.

This is important to me, because I run an Orb server for accessing my media library, so switching back and forth between the player (CorePlayer), and the browser is a valuable convenience.

I've noticed some minor rendering differences, but nothing so far that is objectionable. I plan to use Mini for a while as my default browser to give it a more thorough test-drive. In the mean time, I'd like to hear from others that are using Mini 5, if you've been a Mobile 9/10 user and your compare/contrast impressions, etc.

Thanks!

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*HTML, being a human-readable text markup, is very inefficient; for example, consider that in a binary-coded token-based markup, a tag like <TABLE>, 7 bytes minimum, can be encoded in a 2-byte binary token allowing for 65536 possible tokens, reducing the data sent to about 25% for that token; with style-sheet formatting, ubiquitous today, the potential compression given the long human-readable commands is even greater.

I have tested all 2

opera mini is faster but Dont have flash support THE ZOOM is no the same of opera mobile

[Guest damonvil]

I would like to know how to make bigger zoom with opera mini as it is done automatically and very small zoom.Thanks.

Edited March 31, 2010 by damonvil

[Guest redzone321]

personaly i cant stand the keyboard in opera mini. i want my swype!

[Guest skoda60]

I just got up to speed on what Opera Mini 5 is (see here for a quick discussion of the difference), downloaded and installed Mini 5, and have been playing with it.

For the lazy, the main difference is page rendering occurs on a server at opera.com, sending a compact, proprietary markup to the lightweight client on your phone for display. This is supposedly faster, and of course the client has a smaller footprint.

MY IMPRESSIONS

The advertised benefits seem to be legit, after using Mini for a half hour or so to browse many of my frequently visited websites, and trying to hit a range of simple to very complex pages. Browsing and rendering are noticably faster, likely due to the speed of the server renderer and the smaller data size that must then be downloaded to the client*.

The features, interface, etc., seems almost identical to me -- at least to the extent that my use has exposed me.

Most exciting to me, the RAM footprint is a fraction of what Opera Mobile 10 takes -- like 20%. This makes it much more practical to leave the browser active while task-switching to other activities, without it being at risk of closing (even with the must-have patch from Chainfire), and even if it doesn't get closed, the low-memory situation O10 virtually guarantees degrades performance.

This is important to me, because I run an Orb server for accessing my media library, so switching back and forth between the player (CorePlayer), and the browser is a valuable convenience.

I've noticed some minor rendering differences, but nothing so far that is objectionable. I plan to use Mini for a while as my default browser to give it a more thorough test-drive. In the mean time, I'd like to hear from others that are using Mini 5, if you've been a Mobile 9/10 user and your compare/contrast impressions, etc.

Thanks!

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*HTML, being a human-readable text markup, is very inefficient; for example, consider that in a binary-coded token-based markup, a tag like <TABLE>, 7 bytes minimum, can be encoded in a 2-byte binary token allowing for 65536 possible tokens, reducing the data sent to about 25% for that token; with style-sheet formatting, ubiquitous today, the potential compression given the long human-readable commands is even greater.

Thank for the write out. But screen rendering will never better then ucweb. Downloaded and try. I was using ucweb(chinese version) since Omnia1. UC Browser 7.0Release and download link: http://wap.uc.cn/a11683/p/

Only the problem I cannot downloaded from RS free user, the delay timer was not working. In fact the download manager of ucweb even better than PC. it can handle multiple download and download resume feature.

Edited March 31, 2010 by skoda60

[Guest Man12529]

personaly i cant stand the keyboard in opera mini. i want my swype!

erm.. why cannot use swype in opera mini? i using it mar..