[ROM] (4/7/10) LainSuxsem 2.0 (liquidE)

[Guest yapa73]

As an old (win) cooker rom, I don't agree with that : When you spend tons of hours writing scripts, debugging, etc, the minimum would be to ask the one who written theses scritps if you can include it in your rom.

Not just downloading his rom, unzipping his scripts, putting in your own update.zip, and telling everyone this is your work.

Nowhere I have seen malez publishing theses scripts. You could think it's not fair, but in other mind, as I said before, maybe he spent a lot of time writing this for improving LCR, and that's not cool to just steal his scritps, and afterward, asking for donations for a work you didn't done yourself.

I think if he just asked to malez if he can include his scripts, he would had been allowed to do it. And if he didn't want to, then you could also understand this for the time spent writing theses things no ?

J'ai affirmè que si les script de protection originaux ont ètè ellimiès, ça n'as ètè qu'au but de pouvoir modifier les codes originaux parcequ'il utilisaient des valeur eronèes et ne pouvaient donc pas rendre le maximum de leur capacitèe. pardons pour mon français mais au maoin vous comprendrez mieu les subtilitèes du langage.

a mon avis, il est une erreur que dans une comunautèe ouverte come celles d'android, un jeune courageux ne vienne pas acceuillis cordialement. ces capacitèes servent a tous, meme au plus anciens.

puis il faut preciser a tous que les nom des auteurs originaux ont ètès mis dès le debut dans le premier postl, sans que personne ne reclame ou ne decline.

maintenant j'ai d'autres chauses a faire, bien plus importantes, et si vous ne voulez pas comprendre sa ne m'importe pas grand chause, mais en restant clos de cette façons, on se condanne soit meme a disparaitre e vieillir seul sans que personne ne s'en rende conte.

[Guest yapa73]

Finally, I wanted to say that prevention, the first question in this case, to respond with a timer function and what was his work, is neither democratic, nor honest. double all this forum should be a place for international exchange, which the abbot and unequalitys silence. are creating a caste who dreams of having power. as always is everywhere.

[Guest malez]

Finally, I wanted to say that prevention, the first question in this case, to respond with a timer function and what was his work, is neither democratic, nor honest. double all this forum should be a place for international exchange, which the abbot and unequalitys silence. are creating a caste who dreams of having power. as always is everywhere.

Don't talk about honesty. I think I have always been honest with users and never refused to give any information to anyone. I have spent hours writing all what I have done and providing support to users. That is the same for other author like Vache, or Piter

You speak about a caste who dreams of having power : you have understound nothing at all. LCR is a community rom. If you think it could be imporoved, and you know how to do, tell it. If you think you can help us, join us but don't steal everything. Of course everything can always be improved, for sure.

Edited July 5, 2010 by malez

[Guest yapa73]

Finally, I wanted to say that prevention, the first question in this case, to respond with a timer function and what was his work, is neither democratic, nor honest. double all this forum should be a place for international exchange, which the abbot and unequalitys silence. are creating a caste who dreams of having power. as always is everywhere.

pour mieux comprendre:

je veus affirmer que d'empecher, le direct interressè dans cette affaire, de pouvoir repondre gentillement e d'expliquer en quoi a consister son travail effectif, n'est ni democratique, ni honette vis a vis de la comunautèe. avant tout, ce forum devrais etre le lieux qui abbat les omertèes et les inegalitèes qui divise les individus. ainsi vous crèez une caste avide de pouvoir, comme partout d'ailleur.

[Guest yapa73]

Don't talk about honesty. I think I have always been honest with users and never refused to give any information to anyone. I have spent hours writing all what I have done and providing support to users. That is the same for other author like Vache, or Piter

You speak about a caste who dreams of having power : you have understound nothing at all. LCR is a community rom. If you think it could be imporoved, and you know how to do, tell it. If you think you can help us, join us but don't steal everything. Of course everything can always be improved, for sure.

then learn to affect the younger talent that year, but sometimes lack experience. and then have to express themselves around this way. but if it was not necessary to make changes millioramento on your codes, it was necessary to break scripts that protected.

and above all, do not remove more than ever, anyone the right to defend itself publicly.

[Guest Nsanity]

Can someone please upload it?

[Guest SuxsemReturn]

sorry for bad english...

people make mistakes too but at least he could say sorry for what he did dont you think?

I'M SUXSEM. MY ACCOUNT IS SUSPENDED. SUSPENDED? YES. WITHOUT ANY WARNING. it's shy

i'm only resignin for this replay. i will suspend again, i know...

1) i added ALL CREDITS to all people, as xian (who tell me to insert other people, and i would do it), FROM THE FIRST TIME

2) android IS AN OPEN SOURCE PROJECT...so...if you can't read you apache license isn't my problem

3) the links wasn't phishing links... anyway i have changed my download stats service (CHECK MY TOPIC ON XDA)

4) my ROM haven't ANY WAREZ contenent. CHECK ALL FILES AND SEE. as i wrote...only a setting in data folder to use all features of titanium backup. READ "WAREZ" on wikipedia please.

ANYWAY.....TELL ME you don't want this setting and i remove it from my ROM....DON'T SUSPEND MY ACCOUNT

5) this is FREE WORK. i can keep my ROM to me. if i released my work it is FOR HELPS PEOPLE TO GETTING MORE BY YOUR PHONE (because your new LCR is very bad man...). if you don't like donate link....TELL ME and i remove it, because i'm reasonable person

6) NO ONE is FORCED to install my rom, NO ONE is FORCED to see this topic or donate me; there was no need to suspend my account

anyway....no problem for me. in this forum there is a lot of men who understood my intenction and can go on xda forum. i'm sorry for the forum admin and mod team...

@malez read your license. If you have problems with me ok, I do not care. Fortunately there are many other good dev as xian or piter that help people

IF YOU WANT....DELETE THIS REPLAY :) bye

[Guest gengaro86]

Yapa73 you're talking about honesty and OpenSource, but you didn't understand nothing at all of both concepts.

Let me explain you something: if you take the GNU/Linux kernel, write some modules on top of it and then pretend to "sell" that piece of software as yours, you'll be eternally flamed by everyone who's able to understand what you've really achieved. Opensource isn't a matter of stealing someone's software, is a matter of understanding and intellectual growth.

If you think you've reached an higher point with something you wrote on top of something you didn't wrote, you should collaborate with the original developer, that's what was originally meant by the FSF. Growing, understanding.

What the ROM Cookers done here is stealing, therefore going against any principle of Free and Open Software. That's neither honest or "Open". That's a theft.

[Guest SuxsemReturn]

see other rom. most of roms are based on other roms, with add, remove, and edit files. and insert the credits...

ops...i did it

[Guest SuxsemReturn]

AND.....THE TITLE EXPLAIN ALL:

MIX based on THE BEST ROMs/LEAKs/DUMPs with a lot of SCRIPTS

no words

[Guest HustlinDaily]

4) my ROM haven't ANY WAREZ contenent. CHECK ALL FILES AND SEE. as i wrote...only a setting in data folder to use all features of titanium backup. READ "WAREZ" on wikipedia please.

ANYWAY.....TELL ME you don't want this setting and i remove it from my ROM....DON'T SUSPEND MY ACCOUNT

The full apps (docs2go cracked, the paid games) is considered warez.

[Guest SuxsemReturn]

READ FIRST:

-if you want a package of full apps, flash from malez recovery the FULLAPPS zip; install the applications only if you have regularly bought them

:)

and...anyway...see batista rom. no account suspend no removed links

Edited July 5, 2010 by SuxsemReturn

[Guest gengaro86]

I'm not going to waste my time with a 12yo wannabe-famous boy.

Read carefully the whole description of other more serious developers' ROM; learn what "Opensource" means (hint: Wikipedia won't help you; another hint: learn what a "fork" is), learn what the Free Software Foundation is trying to achieve and then come back to apologize with malez.

Goodbye.

[Guest SuxsemReturn]

i programmed in a number of languages that you can not even keep in mind (http://hackeco.forumfree.it/ | http://www.msgpluslive.it/scripts/browse/2...ipts-(Italiano) | a lot of facebook apps | 45 php sites developed, a few for a site bigger than this | ecc) ; find my name in xubuntu project and tell me what is it open project.

anyway, 800 downloads and a super fast rom for my phone... you can hold the lcr 1.7 :)

Edited July 5, 2010 by SuxsemReturn

[Guest yapa73]

Yapa73 you're talking about honesty and OpenSource, but you didn't understand nothing at all of both concepts.

Let me explain you something: if you take the GNU/Linux kernel, write some modules on top of it and then pretend to "sell" that piece of software as yours, you'll be eternally flamed by everyone who's able to understand what you've really achieved. Opensource isn't a matter of stealing someone's software, is a matter of understanding and intellectual growth.

If you think you've reached an higher point with something you wrote on top of something you didn't wrote, you should collaborate with the original developer, that's what was originally meant by the FSF. Growing, understanding.

What the ROM Cookers done here is stealing, therefore going against any principle of Free and Open Software. That's neither honest or "Open". That's a theft.

No bello qui ci stanno ingioco invidie nei confronti di un giovane che impara, intanto per sentenziare bisogna dare il diritto di difesa, anche ammettendo che sux avesse rubato qualcosa. ma poi anche un ignorante capisce se basta fare copia incolla per creare la propria rom, che interesse avrebbe avuto suxx, di togliere script di protezione. poi se io voglio uno strumento sicuro sentendomi tranquilizzato dalla proprietà di un professionista, non chiamo certo un malez ho altri. ma vado da mac, ho unix. senza pero voler togliere niente a nessuno. perche quello che mi fa strano è che si metta un bavaglio a un nuovo utente. cosa mi fa pensare... che qualcun altro a paura di aver fatto una figuraccia. opure in quei codici cancellati si spiavano i nostri dati in termini di utilizzo, perche seno, proteggere non ha senso, è gratis e accessibile a tutti.

non è che devi studiare per capire sto concetto.

[Guest Piter1225]

5) this is FREE WORK. i can keep my ROM to me. if i released my work it is FOR HELPS PEOPLE TO GETTING MORE BY YOUR PHONE (because your new LCR is very bad man...). if you don't like donate link....TELL ME and i remove it, because i'm reasonable person

It matters what you demand from ROM, for you it can be very bad, but for some it can be cool, with many useful features - but it's your opinion nad you can share it with us - it's forum, so everyone can write what they will

and...anyway...see batista rom. no account suspend no removed links

The fact, that somewhere there are available paid apps for free download is not an excuse for me, really.

You can say, that they are also on page XYZ, and you only wanted to help some users which don't know that is not an excuse too.

I'm learning to be a lawyer and in my country law says, that it's not bad when you download and use warez, but you can be punished when you share that content with others. I don't know how does it look in Italy, but probably it's illegal to share paid apps too.

On the other hand, I see that you had good intentions, you wannted to do something for community which is always good, but it all

doesn't finished as you wannted.

Hope your next attempts on the Liquid developement scene will be better :)

[Guest gengaro86]

No bello qui ci stanno ingioco invidie nei confronti di un giovane che impara, intanto per sentenziare bisogna dare il diritto di difesa, anche ammettendo che sux avesse rubato qualcosa. ma poi anche un ignorante capisce se basta fare copia incolla per creare la propria rom, che interesse avrebbe avuto suxx, di togliere script di protezione. poi se io voglio uno strumento sicuro sentendomi tranquilizzato dalla proprietà di un professionista, non chiamo certo un malez ho altri. ma vado da mac, ho unix. senza pero voler togliere niente a nessuno. perche quello che mi fa strano è che si metta un bavaglio a un nuovo utente. cosa mi fa pensare... che qualcun altro a paura di aver fatto una figuraccia. opure in quei codici cancellati si spiavano i nostri dati in termini di utilizzo, perche seno, proteggere non ha senso, è gratis e accessibile a tutti.

non è che devi studiare per capire sto concetto.

That's funny, I'm Italian but I really can't understand what's written up above.

Epic Italian Grammatical Fail in an English-Only Forum from an Italian User. You rock.

@Suxsem: knowing a lot of languages doesn't make you a good programmer. Take this as a life-lesson from an experimental MIPS OS developer/researcher (http://mps.sf.net).

Edited July 5, 2010 by gengaro86

[Guest SuxsemReturn]

all @piter

really useful response

i can remove warez apps; if someone want to add his credit tell me and i'll add it; but i'm very angry for account suspend

Hope your next attempts on the Liquid developement scene will be better

i think i have did a good job; i will make better my rom, not start a new project.

1)ok remove warez

2)ok add credit (tell me what........)

3)not ok for some LCR files in my rom. is a MIX of a few roms. it must contains other rom's files

@genga

@Suxsem: knowing a lot of languages doesn't make you a good programmer. Take this as a life-lesson from an experimental MIPS OS developer/researcher (http://mps.sf.net).

people says me that i do good jobs, so don't tell me how to be good dev and what is it OpenSource. or says in other ways man...no one need your lesson, and sure not me.

That's funny, I'm Italian but I really can't understand what's wrote up above.

Epic Italian Grammatical Fail in an English-Only Forum from an Italian User. You rock.

i'm italian and is a good italian post. oh sorry dante...

Edited July 5, 2010 by SuxsemReturn

[Guest andrew2511]

That's funny, I'm Italian but I really can't understand what's wrote up above.

Epic Italian Grammatical Fail in an English-Only Forum from an Italian User. You rock.

+1! :)

[Guest pechenie]

Everyone can do a mistake, there is no reason to ban that guy without any warning (and just because some valueable people from community didn't like him).

Warez IS bad. But Suxsem is ready to remove it and bring apologize to the community.

The guy described his ROM well - he actually linked to all the work he used. He warned, that it's a MIXTURE of other ROM.

And finally, I want to quote a message (translation) from one other forum (original link here)

IMHO LainSuxsem 2.0 is the best. It is installed on my phone now: low power consumption, good performance, no bugs... I'm glad :)

And there are some similiar messages.

Good work, Suxsem. Keep going.

Cheers.

[Guest yapa73]

+1! :)

Français, domages, mais votre reponce demontre votre bassésse d'esprit.

mon but ètait de faire argumenter les propres resons en clair devant tous, pas seulement du point de vus d'une des parts:

le fait que malez a repondus furieusement a mes provocations est sufisante, les lecteur savent se faire leur propre opinions et il n'a pas besoins de lèche bottes pour exprimer son desaccord.

le fait que suxsem a pus exprimer ces justifications pubbliquement, meme si se n'est pas grace a sa contreparti, qui l'a de toute façons censurè.

pour moi ce sont deux pillier importants qui pouraient donner beaucoup s'ils unissaient leur forses.

Sono francese caro, peccato, ma la tua risposta dimostra le tue limitazioni di spirito.

il mio scoppo era di far argomentare le proprie motivazioni in chiaro difronte a tutti e non solamente pubblicando l'opinione di una sola parte:

il fatto che malez abbia risposto furiosamente alle mie provocazioni è sufficente, i lettori sanno farsi le proprie opinioni e lui non a bisogno di lecca culi per esprimere le sue discordie.

il fatto che Suxsem abbia potuto esprimere le sue giustificazioni pubblicamente, anche se non grazie alla controparte, che lo a comunque censurato.

per me sono due pilastri importanti, che se unissero le loro forze, potrebbero dare tanto a tutti.

French, damages, but your reponce demonstrates your meanness of spirit.

My goal was to argue the own resonance in the clear to everyone, not just seen the point of a share:

that has responded furiously Malezi to my provocations is Sufis, the player know how to do their own opinions and did not need to lick boots to express disapproval.

that could express a suxsem pubblications these justifications, even if is not thanks to its counterpart, which has in any way censored.

For me they are two important pillar to give much if they united their forse.

[Guest SgtDavePwnage]

IF all warez / paid apps are removed from the rom, if malez is happy to allow use of his code and apropriate credit is given. Then I will re-instate the links.

Im not getting into a discussion about the meaning of "warez" or about "well other roms have warez"....those roms will also be looked into.

As for not getting any warning...it was apparent from reading the thread that Suxsem doesn't really mind including paid apps as he stated "they are old versions" as if this makes any difference

The rules on warez are obvious.....

As for the comment "DON'T SUSPEND MY ACCOUNT" you are lucky it wasn't an instant ban

[Guest akira.pwr]

I only want to say one thing STOP FIGHT HERE!

If Malez think Suxem have stolen something i think he have to fix this with sux, everyone else can say his own opinion without fight, without offensive words etc, this is a forum right? NOT a fun club, everyone can do a mistake, I believe in a goodheart on anyone here, so, STOP FIGHT and let's talk about liquid.

Malez and lcr team know what to do, Suxsem and Lain know what to do too, everything will be ok if they talk and fix this situation.

[Guest fischschneehase]

see other rom. most of roms are based on other roms, with add, remove, and edit files. and insert the credits...

ops...i did it

the main point is that the other people who created these roms asked before using someones scrpts^^

[Guest akira.pwr]

the main point is that the other people who created these roms asked before using someones scrpts^^

Are you sure about that? Who told you that?