I just picked up my San Francisco! Findings as I go in here...

[Guest flatnote31]

TBH, I wouldn't bother...One can't expect such a device to have decent opticals...I'm quite fussy about my pictures, and no matter what, I'll always be comparing them to those I take with my DSLR, so I'm living with it.

umm...if only mobiles had interchangeable OS! I would get the N8 and throw android on it :lol:

may be oneday.....

Do you reckon fellows that in the near future we'll be able to assemble our mobile phones the way we do with pc's ??

Thought i'd add a few pic's taken today with the camera. never messed around with the setting was on the normal settings.

Some of the pic's look a bit dull but thats because of the weather here in Ireland B) Hope this helps with ppl with camera question about how good it is. B)

Edited September 25, 2010 by flatnote31

[Guest mark2410]

i think those pics look just fine, of course they dont compare to real camera but thats why i own a real camera, ive never use a phone cam for anything other than crap to stick on twitpic

[Guest Willz]

Do you think this phone could run the PSX emulator? Has anyone, or would someone mind trying please? :lol:

[Guest flatnote31]

umm, but that's what this is all about...the "ULTIMATE" device, that can communicate, take pics n vids, play media, tether connections, text, baby sit, cool and preserve food, grow organic fruit n veg, give sponge baths, protect against germs and, last but not least, make a phone call every now and then.

i think those pics look just fine, of course they dont compare to real camera but thats why i own a real camera, ive never use a phone cam for anything other than crap to stick on twitpic

[Guest blunden]

Do you think this phone could run the PSX emulator? Has anyone, or would someone mind trying please? :lol:

I doubt it. This is a mid-range phone with a good screen and a good amount of ram (for a very low price). It's not that fast though. The PSX emulator can have troubles even on an N1 which is much faster.

umm, but that's what this is all about...the "ULTIMATE" device, that can communicate, take pics n vids, play media, tether connections, text, baby sit, cool and preserve food, grow organic fruit n veg, give sponge baths, protect against germs and, last but not least, make a phone call every now and then.

Then you are looking in the wrong price range. B) Edited September 25, 2010 by blunden

[Guest flatnote31]

I doubt it. This is a mid-range phone with a good screen and a good amount of ram (for a very low price). It's not that fast though. The PSX emulator can have troubles even on an N1 which is much faster.

Then you are looking in the wrong price range. :lol:

read what I was commenting on B)

[Guest tomjo7]

I read here that you can get a £20 discount if you work for the government aswell as the NHS... Don't know if it is true, but it's worth a try if anyone does (like me :lol:)!

Also, any issues with any of the software/apps?

Edited September 25, 2010 by tomjo7

[Guest jim144]

Thanks Jim,

Excuse my ignorance... facetime? Wots this?

That's apple's probably patented word for video calling. It requires a front facing camera, which this doesn't have.

Edit - wow, this thread has moved fast :-) I'm still liking my SF; only problem I've noticed so far is that sometimes when it sleeps, it doesn't re-find my wi-fi when I wake it up, and I have to toggle the wifi off and back on. Is that an Android thing, or peculiar to my setup?

Edited September 25, 2010 by jim144

[Guest HugoQueiriga]

That's apple's probably patented word for video calling. It requires a front facing camera, which this doesn't have.

Edit - wow, this thread has moved fast :-) I'm still liking my SF; only problem I've noticed so far is that sometimes when it sleeps, it doesn't re-find my wi-fi when I wake it up, and I have to toggle the wifi off and back on. Is that an Android thing, or peculiar to my setup?

Have same issue, I also find that its wifi is weak compared to my other phones.

[Guest Sebastian404]

Have same issue, I also find that its wifi is weak compared to my other phones.

I had that problem yesterday, but today I cant get it to join my wifi network at all. and it seems I've used my all my data allowance for the month already in 3 days!

Actually, I just managed to join someone else's wifi network so it might be more a problem with the router here rather than the phone :!

Edited September 25, 2010 by Sebastian404

[Guest Azurren]

Thought i'd add a few pic's taken today with the camera. never messed around with the setting was on the normal settings.

Pic 1

Pic 2

etc

Some of the pic's look a bit dull but thats because of the weather here in Ireland B) Hope this helps with ppl with camera question about how good it is. :lol:

Those pics look fine to me, any chance you could up the settings? That resolution is closer to VGA than 3mp B)

[Guest tomjo7]

I had that problem yesterday, but today I cant get it to join my wifi network at all. and it seems I've used my all my data allowance for the month already in 3 days!

Actually, I just managed to join someone else's wifi network so it might be more a problem with the router here rather than the phone :!

Your wifi isn't 02 by any chance is it? Heard orange don't like that..

[Guest Sebastian404]

Your wifi isn't 02 by any chance is it? Heard orange don't like that..

I'm staying with family right now, so its not my Wifi exactly... I thought it was an Apple Extreme, but apparently its a NetGear box..

Now Im being told its 'some times flakey' so I dunno anymore. Hopefully I'll get it onto my network when I'm home :lol:

[Guest David Horvath]

Until a review here is a similar phone with smaller screen but same CPU and chipset:

[Guest blackmath]

Anyone know how to get hold of orange messenger powered by windows live? Android lacks an official windows live app and so this was a major plus. Yet it isn't anywhere to be found.

[Guest Danh2122]

So paul, a few questions

On a scale of 10 how good is it compared to a Nexus one? (if it gets 5+ its good for the price)

Is it worth buying?

Will there be Rooting and Custom Roms Coming?

I'm looking for something cheap to replace my pulse mini, Is it worth it?

P.s if i get it i'll unlock it and put it on T-mobile

[Guest tonemgub1]

Sorry, but what do you guys mean by wifi limit? How can there be a limit to the amount of wifi you use, isn't that already paid for?

Also, would this be able to play 720p videos?

[Guest Sebastian404]

Sorry, but what do you guys mean by wifi limit? How can there be a limit to the amount of wifi you use, isn't that already paid for?

Also, would this be able to play 720p videos?

Well my issue is that even when I'm sitting a few inches from my Wifi Access point it said the signal was 'low', but all the other devices I have work fine.

The problem I have now is that it wont even join the access point, and while I could connect to someone else's it dropped off shortly afterwards...

Im not at home right now, so its hard for me to say, but I'll give it a better test when I'm home.

[Guest GGR]

Well my issue is that even when I'm sitting a few inches from my Wifi Access point it said the signal was 'low', but all the other devices I have work fine.

The problem I have now is that it wont even join the access point, and while I could connect to someone else's it dropped off shortly afterwards...

Im not at home right now, so its hard for me to say, but I'll give it a better test when I'm home.

I have exactly the same problem. I wonder if this is hardware issue? I hope not :lol:

[Guest Frankish]

That could be a deal breaker for me if the wifi is that bad. B)

I couldn't live without wifi and the Penetrate app :lol:

[Guest Paul]

I'm across the house from my access point and signal is fine... strange...

P

[Guest Modmedia]

WIFI Access Fine for me here too!

[Guest GGR]

WIFI Access Fine for me here too!

Nope, 2 bars touched to NETGEAR antenna. No WI-FI outside the room including the loo lol.

Might be faulty device? Will check tomorrow on full charge and if necessary will visit orange shop on Monday.

Edited September 25, 2010 by GGR

[Guest Modmedia]

Nope, 2 bars touched to NETGEAR antenna. No WI-FI outside the room including the loo lol.

Strange I'm at the other end of a house with plenty of thick brick walls and I'm still 2/3 bars.

[Guest GGR]

Strange I'm at the other end of a house with plenty of thick brick walls and I'm still 2/3 bars.

Could be my NETGEAR router, but never had any issues with other devices so far.

edit: Now I am sure it is not my router because can't see other APs around as well :lol:.

Edited September 25, 2010 by GGR