Guest David Horvath Posted October 10, 2010 Report Share Posted October 10, 2010 I was just thinking about this. How awesome would it be to work together with the hardware manufacturer. Open source community hand by hand with the hardware supplier. The only thing what we would need for exchange (because its obvious the work what the MODACO guys are doing costs heavy money) is the driver sources as well. We would take care about the roms, ZTE and Orange would take care about manufacturing and deploying. Cool. Phone development 2.0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest vl4d1m1r Posted October 10, 2010 Report Share Posted October 10, 2010 The full text of the license can also be found at http://www.gnu.org/licenses/old-licenses/gpl-2.0.html ZTE is legally required to distribute the source code for both the Froyo and Eclair releases as they have already distributed the ROMs which include the modified kernel. It doesn't hurt to be polite about requesting it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest StevenHarperUK Posted October 10, 2010 Report Share Posted October 10, 2010 Yes, ask for the UK Sanfransico 2.1 kernel source The open source declaration can be found in any of those zips, it's in the file COPYING, a small part is quoted below.... "For example, if you distribute copies of such a program, whether gratis or for a fee, you must give the recipients all the rights that you have. You must make sure that they, too, receive or can get the source code. And you must show them these terms so they know their rights." Ok : I will ask tomorrow (Monday) and see if the ROM dude will pass on a request for the UK Sanfransico 2.1 kernel source. Will get back to you when I get a response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hillmie87 Posted October 10, 2010 Report Share Posted October 10, 2010 Ok : I will ask tomorrow (Monday) and see if the ROM dude will pass on a request for the UK Sanfransico 2.1 kernel source. Will get back to you when I get a response. Good luck man! You're awesome. Hope they'll give you the kernel source. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest fradleyp Posted October 10, 2010 Report Share Posted October 10, 2010 froyo froyo froyo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rjm2k Posted October 10, 2010 Report Share Posted October 10, 2010 Thanks for helping, could you investigate if there is a source for spare batterys in this country too please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jdtanner Posted October 10, 2010 Report Share Posted October 10, 2010 @StevenHarperUK Cheers for helping us out mate, very much appreciated :) John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest screwface Posted October 10, 2010 Report Share Posted October 10, 2010 I wonder if we'll get access to more ram if we got the .32 kernel running Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tonycornholio Posted October 10, 2010 Report Share Posted October 10, 2010 Exciting times ahead it would seem in the world of the SF, I think I might be very glad I bought it yesterday :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rjm2k Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 I wonder if we'll get access to more ram if we got the .32 kernel running I'm not sure why we would get more RAM, but we could enable swap with any kernel source. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest StevenHarperUK Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 Ok : Question asked, emails sent he will send it onto our direct link with ZTE, and the goole expert they have been assigned I spent some time (in person after the email) explaining the benefits to ZTE (and our customers) if we get things like the HW acceleration and other "fixes" back into the source. It may take a few days to get sorted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rjm2k Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 (edited) Ok : Question asked, emails sent he will send it onto our direct link with ZTE, and the goole expert they have been assigned I spent some time (in person after the email) explaining the benefits to ZTE (and our customers) if we get things like the HW acceleration and other "fixes" back into the source. It may take a few days to get sorted. Excellent, though TBH I think Orange/ZTE are unlikely to be interested in the Homebrew scene feeding changes back into the official software, but they should be interested in living upto their obligations under the license. Also interesting that they are assigned a google expert, that suggests it might be worth contacting Google re the license if we don't get anywhere with Orange/ZTE - partners are required to submit their license agreement to [email protected] so that would be the address to use if we get no joy. Edited October 11, 2010 by rjm2k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest David Horvath Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 Good news. Anything about the Froyo coming to SF? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest vl4d1m1r Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 As stated earlier, ZTE are legally required to distribute the source code for the .32 modified kernel as the ROM is already in the wild. So, as soon as someone can pressure them we will likely see useful results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest kallt_kaffe Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 I'm fed up and disappointed with Huawei for not releasing kernel sources for phones they sell and I decided it was propably time to replace my Huawei with a ZTE Blade. After all I know I read they released the kernel source for it... Luckily I found this thread before getting an overpriced one of eBay (I'm in Sweden) realizing ZTE is just as bad as Huawei... Tweaking the kernel is half the fun with an Android phone. The other half is tweaking Android itself... This is just so depressing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neologan Posted October 12, 2010 Report Share Posted October 12, 2010 hope there is progress soon. ZTE clearly don't have a clue how much more buzz could be generated here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Evil Disco Guy Posted October 13, 2010 Report Share Posted October 13, 2010 So I sent an email to the PAYG contact on the Help & Support section of the Orange website the other day and just now, after checking my messages, realised that they've contacted me regarding further info. I had mentioned that I was an Android developer (lie, I can't code to save my life) and was interesting in looking at the source code under the GPL license. I also mentioned that ZTE had released code but that it didn't seem to be relevant to our device. Sadly the Data Team department is closed now so I'm going to ring back tomorrow. They did say however that it was something that they were already looking into. So that's positive, I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neologan Posted October 13, 2010 Report Share Posted October 13, 2010 I've emailed ZTE too, I'm at stage two of emails where its now being sent to the relevant department instead of just support. I don't think anything will come of it, but I'll be wording it to get attention, so let's hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tonethefone Posted October 14, 2010 Report Share Posted October 14, 2010 hope there is progress soon. ZTE clearly don't have a clue how much more buzz could be generated here. I've had a message to say that the ZTE guys in charge of handset PR are now well aware of this thread and are looking to help out. In the meantime I still can't reboot my ZTE Racer. It starts up in an infinite loop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest blauwal26 Posted October 14, 2010 Report Share Posted October 14, 2010 my ZTE Racer. It starts up in an infinite loop. Might be the nascar edition? Sorry. Anyways, I really hope we get to see some piece of Source soon that actually compiles, imagine all the possibilities! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rjm2k Posted October 14, 2010 Report Share Posted October 14, 2010 I've had a message to say that the ZTE guys in charge of handset PR are now well aware of this thread and are looking to help out. In the meantime I still can't reboot my ZTE Racer. It starts up in an infinite loop. What did you do to it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ken218 Posted October 14, 2010 Report Share Posted October 14, 2010 I've had a message to say that the ZTE guys in charge of handset PR are now well aware of this thread and are looking to help out. In the meantime I still can't reboot my ZTE Racer. It starts up in an infinite loop. Maybe it sounds stupid, but in the old day with Pulse (not that old...), removing the sd card before booting the phone might help? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Simon O Posted October 17, 2010 Report Share Posted October 17, 2010 So did anybody manage to get a reply regarding the kernel source? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jdtanner Posted October 17, 2010 Report Share Posted October 17, 2010 So did anybody manage to get a reply regarding the kernel source? Nothing from ZTE (via a direct email) and nothing from ConorfromOrange (via Twitter)...so in a word...no :) John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest StevenHarperUK Posted October 17, 2010 Report Share Posted October 17, 2010 Nothing from ZTE (via a direct email) and nothing from ConorfromOrange (via Twitter)...so in a word...no :) John Still waiting from the ZTE Guys and there appointed Google chap - I will chase on monday at work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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