Well, it was fun while it lasted!

[Guest dwallersv]

The writing's on the wall. Microsoft iPhone looks to be, well, as much of a steaming pile of **** as the Apple iPhone. So, WM is dead, and so is all the hacking and customization.

I've been a loyal, happy Omnia fan for over two years. First the i910, then the i920. My daughter's going to love her hand-me-down Omnia II.

I've made the leap -- got a Galaxy Epic 4G last week. After nearly a week of using it (an customizing it, and "rooting" it, and starting up the learning curve to hack, build ROMs, etc.), I can say I should have done it sooner. Andriod is simply "da bomb". Big time.

I've found a solution so far either as a hack, or (mostly) in the Android Market to every bit of functionality I need... Microsoft RDP client to manage/control my PC at home, and all sorts of other things I feared I'd have to live without for awhile while the Andriod market grows. I was wrong. It's grown.

Even TouchWiz on the Epic is good enough to be more than usable -- it's a suitable substitute for MS3 on my OmniaII. The native browser kicks major buttocks on Opera... scads faster, can open multiple pages at once without killing the OS, renders better, fewer bugs, problems.

A lot more RAM, slide-out kbd, Swype, and of course, the capacitive touchscreen -- my God, I had no idea how much better that technology is just in terms of accuracy and smoothness, not to mention the nice feature of multitouch.

As for MS3 v. Andriod, well, all I can say for the latter is, "there's a widget for that". And for the former, "no, usually there isn't".

Oh, and of course, there's 4G!! 6Mbps down, measured. 1.5Mbps up. WHOAH...

Anyone here familiar with me knows I'm a big Omnia fan, and a contributor to these forums. So, don't take any of this as slagging on the Omnia/II. They're great machines. However, a few days with Linux and Android make the indisputable case that WM is a dated OS simply not up to the task of managing the full-PC resources and capabilities of modern HPC hardware, and the S/W implementation is similarly old-school, requiring lots of retrofitting to make it decent. Hence the hundreds of $$ I've spent on third-party apps and tools to get the most out of my Omnia/II.

A great deal of what I spent to retrofit my WM phones is, well, just there on Andriod. I made the leap, couldn't be happier, and won't be looking back. Best wishes to you all, and see you around when you come over to the dark side... :)

[Guest grcd]

What is an andriod? You keep spelling it wrong....

Anyway, I agree entirely. After trying Android I can't go back to anything else. So much so that I can't wait to turn my Omnia 2 into an Android device... let's hope the project lives. I actually have an HTC Desire, and a T-Mobile Pulse, but having Android on one more device wouldn't be bad at all!

WM 6.5 is absolutely horrible. It is a terrible, bloated OS that manages to be sluggish even with good tech mobiles (like Omnia 2). I doubt there is any device that runs WM 6.5 fast, and if there is, I still doubt that the experience is good, since the whole OS seems to be a patchwork of uneven and terribly conceived features.

I am not in the least looking forward to WM 7.0, not because it won't be fast (I think it will), but for a whole host of other reasons having to do with the OS being too 'locked' from advanced users.

Android is where my bet is at, while I keep an open eye for Bada OS (which might be shortlived however).

[Guest Echo30]

I shall say farewell to you with; you lucky bastard, I can't wait till I get an Android device :)

[Guest JeremyGNJ]

The major difference is that with WM 6.5...no one is archiving what you do! The funny difference is that people are paying the same price for android devices, even though there is no licensing fee for the phone makers.

I played with friends phones who use android, and while it's cool that you can "do anything", it's also feels extremely ...sloppy. Even though Windows Phone 7 isnt what "we" want (we being people on this message board who are power users), i think it has the possibilty of doing well. What I REALLY hope, is that microsoft braches the WM 6.5 OS and makes it a more lean corporate mobile OS.

[Guest metalmanicman]

I agree with JeremyGNJ in so much as WinMo as it is, MUST still be continued.

Even so, I do understand the reasoning behind the WP7 concept of fone software. It has the potential to be a very marketable OS

for the average Facebook/Twitter, type of social bunny who has no real need or desire for a "power user" style OS. (Not Me..!!)

It is a step in the right direction towards "Windows for the Masses". And, it does look to be a smooth, pretty and easy thing to use.

I have played a little with the Galaxy-S and I also feel it is "Less" than WinMo. I just don't "get it".! What's so good about it.?

That said, it's different strokes for different folks.

I have also read on the net of Androids Privacy/cataloging issues. (Not certain of the validity of these claims though).

All for the purpose of better market evaluation and future development, I'm sure.. But, I don't like the idea of being monitored either.

Choice is the key, people. Sadly it seems as we may not have the choice to continue with WinMo as we know it. :)

Good luck to all those of you who are anxiously waiting to switch over, no hard feelings. (At least it's not an iphone) :)

I will be stringing out my Omnias (1+2) as long as possible.

[Guest grcd]

I have also read on the net of Androids Privacy/cataloging issues. (Not certain of the validity of these claims though).

All for the purpose of better market evaluation and future development, I'm sure.. But, I don't like the idea of being monitored either.

I will be stringing out my Omnias (1+2) as long as possible.

This is not true. Android does not really 'monitor' users any more than 'Google' does. When you search on Google, Google keeps your search string and compares it to others, so that it can give you the best possible results. However, no personal data is used in this information and it is just like how a supermarket knows 'which' products you buy, so that it can stock more of them, or drop others that are not that wanted.

In addition, you can specifically opt out of nearly all such 'monitoring' if you so desire -- or keep your Data and Wi-Fi connections off when you are not using them.

This whole 'Google-phobia' related rumours are really weird in my opinion. This is no worse or better than those who have associated Microsoft with the BSOD, or Linux with the lack of drivers, or Apple with being moneymongers who make superficial additions to their product lines to drive in the fanboys into consecutive purchases of the same product.

Right now, truth is that Android remains the fastest, most responsive, most feature-rich and most unified and exemplary piece of (semi-)open mobile phone code out there. Other Linux strands are miles behind, while the closed source alternatives are either slow, laggy and a mess (WM 6/6.5/6.5.x) or far too closed and stubborn (iOS). The only other distant option is Bada OS, but its future is doubtful unless Samsung decides to drop support for WP7 and Android altogether -- which is a very unlikely prospect at the time being.

[Guest tedkord]

This is not true. Android does not really 'monitor' users any more than 'Google' does. When you search on Google, Google keeps your search string and compares it to others, so that it can give you the best possible results. However, no personal data is used in this information and it is just like how a supermarket knows 'which' products you buy, so that it can stock more of them, or drop others that are not that wanted.

In addition, you can specifically opt out of nearly all such 'monitoring' if you so desire -- or keep your Data and Wi-Fi connections off when you are not using them.

This whole 'Google-phobia' related rumours are really weird in my opinion. This is no worse or better than those who have associated Microsoft with the BSOD, or Linux with the lack of drivers, or Apple with being moneymongers who make superficial additions to their product lines to drive in the fanboys into consecutive purchases of the same product.

Right now, truth is that Android remains the fastest, most responsive, most feature-rich and most unified and exemplary piece of (semi-)open mobile phone code out there. Other Linux strands are miles behind, while the closed source alternatives are either slow, laggy and a mess (WM 6/6.5/6.5.x) or far too closed and stubborn (iOS). The only other distant option is Bada OS, but its future is doubtful unless Samsung decides to drop support for WP7 and Android altogether -- which is a very unlikely prospect at the time being.

That's true enough for Android OS, but the real concern is the apps, many of which have been found to mine the users phone for info, sometimes maliciously. I don't like Apple's app store requirements, but you've gotta be REAL careful what you load on your droid. I don't want android deciding what type of apps I can use on my phone (ala Apple), but I'd like them to be sure apps in their store aren't viruses or trojans, etc...

[Guest grcd]

Well to be fair, Android App Store warns you of an application's capacity to 'peek' on personal information prior to installation. If you disagree or you do not want an application to access some of your information, then you should not install it.

But I do agree that Google should implement a way for users to absolutely opt out of such apps if so desired.

[Guest ebsbow]

What a load of bull.

If you want to go to Google, then just do it and shut up. Crybabies.

I/and the rest, am using Windows and Symbian devices for over 10 years, so spare me/us your nonescence.

For info: Android is a fake Google manipulative abomination.(ret.)

In deed each its own,

but refrain from whine at an WinMo forum.

[Guest Echo30]

What a load of bull.

If you want to go to Google, then just do it and shut up. Crybabies.

I/and the rest, am using Windows and Symbian devices for over 10 years, so spare me/us your nonescence.

For info: Android is a fake Google manipulative abomination.(ret.)

In deed each its own,

but refrain from whine at an WinMo forum.

Wow.

[Guest grcd]

What a load of bull.

If you want to go to Google, then just do it and shut up. Crybabies.

I/and the rest, am using Windows and Symbian devices for over 10 years, so spare me/us your nonescence.

For info: Android is a fake Google manipulative abomination.(ret.)

In deed each its own,

but refrain from whine at an WinMo forum.

What a load of ego.

If you want to formulate a proper discussion, address our points rather than baffle us with nonsense cockiness.

Being a user of Windows and Symbian devices for 10 years does not give you or Microsoft any free pass over the quality of their products.

I have been using mobile phones since 1993, yet that doesn't mean that I should hold modern smartphones up to the same standards as my first

handset. Archaic designs are archaic and WM 6.5 uses technologies that were developed back in 2003. It is extremely behind the times, and as an OS has more blemishes and problems than standout positives.

With all that said, I am a WM 6.5.3 user, just as much as you, so I have every right to criticism. I am not idly calling 'Windows an abomination', but a hindrance, a problematic OS that needs an overhaul. This is exactly what Ballmer agrees with and Microsoft tries to do with WM 7. Only problem is that Windows Phone 7 seems to be heading in a direction I am altogether inconvenient with, as I am not really the kind of user they are targeting now.

[Guest momyc]

Hi guys ,

I , also, jump the boat from Omnia II (WinMo 6.5) to Galaxy S ( Android 2.1) and after two months of using Android , I would agree with the first poster that I should be done it earlier.

After learning curve with Android , I got everything that I wanted on device on which the user experience is far better ( at least for me) on Android.

It's responsive , no lag at all(even when I have few application open) . The prices on the market (for I need it) are very low and many free.

I didn't believe that the experience on Android is far better up to I had my new device. Being a long time WinMo user , I had kind of disbelieve that something else could be better than WinMo , but the reality is that they are other options also.

I would return to WinMo ? To 6.5x definitely not , Windows 7 phone ...will see in 2-3 years.

Just my experience...

[Guest blaziblade]

Well, With so much user jumping boats from omnia 2 to android devices and

COMMING BACK TO POST ON THIS OMNIA 2 FORUM

i can definitely see that these people missed their omnia 2 very much =D.

[Guest grcd]

Well, With so much user jumping boats from omnia 2 to android devices and

COMMING BACK TO POST ON THIS OMNIA 2 FORUM

i can definitely see that these people missed their omnia 2 very much =D.

I am here because of the Android Omnia 2 project :) Checking daily. Omnia 2 is a fantastic device, it just needs Android to show!

(PS: My main device is still an i8000 with an ultralite JH2 ROM.

[Guest Nablet]

This is not true. Android does not really 'monitor' users any more than 'Google' does. When you search on Google, Google keeps your search string and compares it to others, so that it can give you the best possible results. However, no personal data is used in this information and it is just like how a supermarket knows 'which' products you buy, so that it can stock more of them, or drop others that are not that wanted.

You saying all the billions Google are making through advertising are just so they can provide you with better searches? Google aren't developing Android for fun, they're doing it for the exact same reason as everyone else: money. The difference is Google, through the position of their search engine, are very powerful and very, very evil. If you have nothing to hide please post your bank account details here on these forums so your activities can be checked and we can make sure you have nothing to hide. Until then I will continue to use Bing (lesser of the two evils unfortunately) and will shun Google and their data mining.

While Android does have some advantages over WinMo 6.5.x (they're probably just the optimisations HTC have made to their devices) I do not accept that it's superiour. My wife has a Desire and, while I love its look, I absolutely detest Android itself. For one who in their right mind came up with the idea not to include a file browser in the OS? That is just so stupid and frustrating I wanted to throw the phone out the window. The one thing I wish I'd done is buy an HD2 and my next phone will, definitely, be HTC.

Edited October 26, 2010 by Nablet

[Guest dwallersv]

What a load of bull.

If you want to go to Google, then just do it and shut up. Crybabies.

I/and the rest, am using Windows and Symbian devices for over 10 years, so spare me/us your nonescence.

For info: Android is a fake Google manipulative abomination.(ret.)

In deed each its own,

but refrain from whine at an WinMo forum.

ROFL :P

That was the whiniest post in the entire thread!

[Guest dwallersv]

Well, With so much user jumping boats from omnia 2 to android devices and

COMMING BACK TO POST ON THIS OMNIA 2 FORUM

i can definitely see that these people missed their omnia 2 very much =D.

No... just our friends. That's why I came by and posted.

[Guest meabigbaldguy]

It's been eons since I've come around this forum. Dwallersv, sad to see you go. Happy days with your new toy.

I still have my O2, but probably not for much longer. Who knows?

It's my personal opinion that a company who's core business model is advertising and marketing aims to see statistical gain in having an entire demographic of consumers using it's software. The recent news of Google's entirely internet based Chrome OS for PC is a testament to that fact.

Google probably doesn't do it for ill gain, but I personally don't want to let a corporation know that much about my activities and habits, benign as they may be.

I've recently published a short article about a similar topic....

http://bloggingbubba.com/archives/414

[Guest Astracat_95]

Well, With so much user jumping boats from omnia 2 to android devices and

COMMING BACK TO POST ON THIS OMNIA 2 FORUM

i can definitely see that these people missed their omnia 2 very much =D.

I have pre-orderd a new white Samsung Galaxy S, but I'll still be keeping my Omnia II for the time being....

Apart from the fact that I still have another 12 months left on me contract... :)