No more OLED??????

[Guest rxexdxbxaxnxd]

Maybe theres an ips screen, my build number is B05 it looks like oled and has every characteristic of an oled but on a black screen it glows slightly in the dark when oled is supposed to be in complete darkness. Does anyone know of oled screens which do this? I bought it today from the store (monday)

This is exactly what I was talking about in an earlier post. In normal daylight there is no visible difference between black and off, but in the dark, there is a faint glow which is uniform across the screen, ie a backlight... if you look at the magnified pixels, red, green, blue or off, the are all off, but still there is a background glow. But everything else points to AMOLED, so I thinks that's what it is...

[Guest my-planet]

I just swapped my white one for a grey one. Grey one has LED, and the white one had TFT, and memory 512MB

[Guest AceOfSpades]

My ROM version is OUK_P729BV1.0.0B05, as mentioned the screen has a pinky tint when low brightness, all the clues point to amoled, but still.. when using noled, even with all of the dots set to black, the completly black screen is visible as a faintly backlit grey. I'm fairly sure it's amoled but the screen is excellent in either case. in daylight you can't tell the difference between black screen and off, but if as suggested in this thread you had only red text on a black background, in the dark you would see a grey rectangle with red text...

if the LCD's are anything like my 5 year old dell pda, then there is enough backlight even on a black screen to use it like a torch and light up the whole room.

You're describing the exact same thing as what I have. My build number ends in 'B05', pinkish tint at low brightness, very vivid colours - orange nearly burns my retinas, 180 degree viewing angles, I can even see the pentile layout of the pixels, they are not in columns like LCD but instead in a 'zigzag'. All of which point to OLED, but, I also get that very slight grey rectangle, it doesn't seem backlit at all just glowing because its so faint. It is nowhere near as bright as the video of the nexus one but not totally black either.

Does no one else have the same glow (only in a pitch black room)? Could some others with oled or lcd check to see if they gettin something similar? I will try to get a picture of it.

There are only a few explanations I can think of.

1) We have a third type of screen, possibly an ips panel, but then how does it run on build 5 and why are the viewing angles so good? It seems better than the desire!

2) Oled could be florescent so it stores the light like that glow in the dark plastic??

3) the more likely option that it is oled but the transistors which control the pixels are leaking a small voltage/current to the screen when off so it shows this slight glow. This would make sense as oled screens do still use power when showing black - 40% of LCD according to wikipedia.

The screen is great but I just want to know for sure so I can flash some roms without worrying about bricking it or rendering it unusable as it is my first android phone

[Guest Simon O]

If the phone develops a fault and needs to be replaced, would we have to accept a replacement with a TFT screen or can we ask for a refund?

You would have to accept the TFT. But this isn't a bad thing at all. People are getting angry and worried for absolutely no reason. Yes OLED is wonderful but it used more power than LCD/TFT when displaying a white screen. OLED uses pentile matrix so text and icons aren't completely sharp, the TFT/LCD doesn't so text and icons look slightly sharper. Colour reproduction is better on TFT/LCD screens than OLED (so many people with pink tints on OLED). Both screens are 480x800, same colour depth. The TFT/LCD screen apparently has a better touch controller so there is a chance that multitouch actually works properly.

[Guest rossyl]

You would have to accept the TFT. But this isn't a bad thing at all. People are getting angry and worried for absolutely no reason. Yes OLED is wonderful but it used more power than LCD/TFT when displaying a white screen. OLED uses pentile matrix so text and icons aren't completely sharp, the TFT/LCD doesn't so text and icons look slightly sharper. Colour reproduction is better on TFT/LCD screens than OLED (so many people with pink tints on OLED). Both screens are 480x800, same colour depth. The TFT/LCD screen apparently has a better touch controller so there is a chance that multitouch actually works properly.

Just spoken to an Orange shop and they said that they do not have the OLED screens anymore. The new batches are ALL (white or grey) TFT.

However, as mentioned above, it is not the end of the world if that is the case.

[Guest lljkpugna]

I bought a Grey from the Orange shop in Manchester today, and it's a TFT. Fortunately it's for my girlfriend and she won't care / notice. The lady who sold me it didn't know what OLED / TFT screens were! She said she'd never heard of either and it just 'has the screen it came with', as though that makes any sense whatsoever.

[Guest HMZX]

You would have to accept the TFT. But this isn't a bad thing at all. People are getting angry and worried for absolutely no reason. Yes OLED is wonderful but it used more power than LCD/TFT when displaying a white screen. OLED uses pentile matrix so text and icons aren't completely sharp, the TFT/LCD doesn't so text and icons look slightly sharper. Colour reproduction is better on TFT/LCD screens than OLED (so many people with pink tints on OLED). Both screens are 480x800, same colour depth. The TFT/LCD screen apparently has a better touch controller so there is a chance that multitouch actually works properly.

so does that mean that lcd are better? ;)

[Guest Simon O]

so does that mean that lcd are better? ;)

OLED looks better but the LCD is not as bad as people are thinking. Both have plus points, both have bad points. In day to day usage you shouldn't find any problems using an LCD screen.

[Guest HMZX]

OLED looks better but the LCD is not as bad as people are thinking. Both have plus points, both have bad points. In day to day usage you shouldn't find any problems using an LCD screen.

cool

so basically it doesnt matter what screen you have?