Guest bagge Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 Has ZTE officially refused to disclose that code or are we just assuming they wouldnt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rjm2k Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 I'd be curious to know more details about how you know the telephony framework has changed? (i.e. things just don't compile?) You can de-compile the framework, I guess someone has done this and spotted changes. Someone posted that they were working on differencing the zte framework against AOSP but nothing since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cobhc Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 If anyone can tell me how to go about diff'ing the two frameworks then I could put some time into doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest IronDoc Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 You can de-compile the framework, I guess someone has done this and spotted changes. Someone posted that they were working on differencing the zte framework against AOSP but nothing since. Apparently there are too many changes and so this doesn't work (just repeating what I've read). Or it's very difficult... There was some reason anyway :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rjm2k Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 (edited) If anyone can tell me how to go about diff'ing the two frameworks then I could put some time into doing it. You can use dex2jar to convert the .dex files inside the apk files to .class files, then use jd-gui to view the source. Jd-gui has a feature to save the source files but this crashes making it difficult to get hold of all of the source in a form suitable to differencing. NB also that due to optimisations performed when compiling the source, the sequence of statements in the decompiled version may be incorrect, however the same incorrect sequence is likely to be found in the decompiled stock version and zte version so differencing will ignore that unless there are actual differences in which case you would have to use judgement to work out the correct flow. Another option is to use APKTool to decompile to smali (I think that's the name), it the "assembly" language used by the "java"/Dalvik virtual machine (I think), I haven't worked out how to get that output yet though. In order to compare you obviously have to get the stock framework, I did this by getting from the appropriate AOSP branch for FRF91 (the version of android on the blade) "android2.2-rel1" or something similar ( I can't remember off hand). We don't really need ALL changes that ZTE made, just the ones that make RIL work, these are thought to be in Phone.apk and the framework jar file. Edited January 11, 2011 by rjm2k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MDCFan Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 Another option is to use APKTool to decompile to smali (I think that's the name), it the "assembly" language used by the "java"/Dalvik virtual machine (I think), I haven't worked out how to get that output yet though. apktool.bat d Phone.apk After that a folder named "Phone" will be created in the current directory and you will find smali code in "smali" folder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cobhc Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 Is it a very time consuming process? Has noone just had enough time to do it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rjm2k Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 apktool.bat d Phone.apk After that a folder named "Phone" will be created in the current directory and you will find smali code in "smali" folder. Thanks, I assume it works for Jar files too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest isambard Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 We were listening. (Or at least I was). From what I gleamed from your posts : Android's Radio Interface Layer (RIL) provides an abstraction layer between Android telephony services (android.telephony) and radio hardware. You can see from the diagram that the Kernel and the RIL are quite separate. While the Kernel is open-source large parts of Android can be modified without releasing source or information. I think from reading normally the hardware customisation is done only in the vendor RIL (system/libs/libril_vendor.so) but on the Blade for some reason ZTE have modified the telephony framework (java/android/telephony). This makes telephony and RIL interfaces for the Blade different to AOSP used by CM. If we could work out why and how they changed the telephony framework then we could modify AOSP but that is a difficult task unless ZTE developers give us the information. Is that right? I'd be curious to know more details about how you know the telephony framework has changed? (i.e. things just don't compile?) actually, i would also be interested to know what exactly the problem is. i assume that the vendor RIL library is not compiled into the kernel (for GPL reasons) but rather in a separate library and that we can use the pre-compiled library with our own modified kernels. ditto for the ril daemon. the last link is then the application framework and how this interfaces the ril daemon. i guess it's not as simple as compiling the rest of android and substituting the telephony and gsm from the ZTE versions otherwise someone would have done this already. am i right? then is it a case of having to write a layer to translate either the telephony part or gsm part? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Cirno Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 Yeah CM7 is based on 2.3... We won't get ports of any other roms until we get RIL working properly. On a side note where is your username from? Me? Well my username is a name from an ice fairy called Cirno, why :D? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gusthy Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 The RIL problems have nothing to do with kernel source (I don't know why I bother repeating this, no one listens). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest joyfun Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 I don't know much about how RIL work Some people mentioned Phone.apk , AFAIK in flibblesan latest rom he used the AOSP dailer. I don't know if he complied himself . I think he is used RIL with aosp code. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sebbo90 Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 Would it be too difficult then to compile our own version of ril so that it would work with aosp? Or could we not use the ril version from the HTC legend roms as they both use the same chipset? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pellen Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 Thanks, I assume it works for Jar files too? That's correct :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rjm2k Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 (edited) apktool.bat d Phone.apk I just get this error on ubuntu, probably wrong version of java, maybe I'll try windows instead - nope that gives the same error. Exception in thread "main" java.lang.UnsupportedClassVersionError: Bad version number in .class file at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass1(Native Method) at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass(ClassLoader.java:620) at java.security.SecureClassLoader.defineClass(SecureClassLoader.java:124) at java.net.URLClassLoader.defineClass(URLClassLoader.java:260) at java.net.URLClassLoader.access$100(URLClassLoader.java:56) at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(URLClassLoader.java:195) at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method) at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(URLClassLoader.java:188) at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:306) at sun.misc.Launcher$AppClassLoader.loadClass(Launcher.java:268) at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:251) at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClassInternal(ClassLoader.java:319) Edited January 11, 2011 by rjm2k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pellen Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 (edited) I just get this error on ubuntu, probably wrong version of java, maybe I'll try windows instead - nope that gives the same error. Exception in thread "main" java.lang.UnsupportedClassVersionError: Bad version number in .class file at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass1(Native Method) at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass(ClassLoader.java:620) at java.security.SecureClassLoader.defineClass(SecureClassLoader.java:124) at java.net.URLClassLoader.defineClass(URLClassLoader.java:260) at java.net.URLClassLoader.access$100(URLClassLoader.java:56) at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(URLClassLoader.java:195) at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method) at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(URLClassLoader.java:188) at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:306) at sun.misc.Launcher$AppClassLoader.loadClass(Launcher.java:268) at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:251) at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClassInternal(ClassLoader.java:319) I had no problems baksmaling Phone.apk. EDIT: Have you installed the framework files for apktool to use? Edited January 11, 2011 by pellen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sebbo90 Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 I just get this error on ubuntu, probably wrong version of java, maybe I'll try windows instead - nope that gives the same error. Exception in thread "main" java.lang.UnsupportedClassVersionError: Bad version number in .class file at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass1(Native Method) at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass(ClassLoader.java:620) at java.security.SecureClassLoader.defineClass(SecureClassLoader.java:124) at java.net.URLClassLoader.defineClass(URLClassLoader.java:260) at java.net.URLClassLoader.access$100(URLClassLoader.java:56) at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(URLClassLoader.java:195) at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method) at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(URLClassLoader.java:188) at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:306) at sun.misc.Launcher$AppClassLoader.loadClass(Launcher.java:268) at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:251) at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClassInternal(ClassLoader.java:319) I had no problems baksmaling Phone.apk. EDIT: Have you installed the framework files for apktool to use? How's the decompiling going? Is this anyone can do? Just after tonight I have 5 days off and nought to do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pellen Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 How's the decompiling going? Is this anyone can do? Just after tonight I have 5 days off and nought to do With APKtool it's easy to decompile, but then fiddling about with the decompiled files isn't my cup of tea, I suck at programming :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Frankish Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 APKTool or just Baksmali which is what i use. It's easy on windows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sebbo90 Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 With APKtool it's easy to decompile, but then fiddling about with the decompiled files isn't my cup of tea, I suck at programming :D I am ok at it, I have time on my hands so would be glad to help and try and hopefully port an AOSP android to the blade. When the files are decompiled what needs to be done with them? What language are they in? Which files whould I be looking at? (sorry for all the questions) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest oh!dougal Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 (edited) ... What language are they in? ... I gather that the idea is to disassembe (baksmali) the ZTE ril layer to smali which is the assembler for Android's Java Virtual Machine "Dalvik". So that's what that territory entails. But I'm not sure exactly what the problem definition is. Seems to be - There's a complete AOSP source. But that doesn't talk to our radio hardware. Our kernel source does talk to our radio hardware, but the radio part of the open source build doesn't talk to our kernel, and thus cannot talk to our hardware. {Please feel free to correct or amplify this, I'm just trying to set it out plainly} Precisely how that is best tackled, I don't think people have agreed upon. Is it modifying the ZTE layer that talks to the kernel? Or trying to translate the AOSP calls into things our kernel knows about? Or looking at the working kernel source together with the AOSP kernel source to accept the calls that AOSP makes ... Edited January 11, 2011 by oh!dougal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sebbo90 Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 Anyone just asked zte for the RIL library source code? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rjm2k Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 I gather that the idea is to disassembe (baksmali) the ZTE ril layer to smali which is the assembler for Android's Java Virtual Machine "Dalvik". So that's what that territory entails. But I'm not sure exactly what the problem definition is. Seems to be - There's a complete AOSP source. But that doesn't talk to our radio hardware. Our kernel source does talk to our radio hardware, but the radio part of the open source build doesn't talk to our kernel, and thus cannot talk to our hardware. {Please feel free to correct or amplify this, I'm just trying to set it out plainly} Precisely how that is best tackled, I don't think people have agreed upon. Is it modifying the ZTE layer that talks to the kernel? Or trying to translate the AOSP calls into things our kernel knows about? Or looking at the working kernel source together with the AOSP kernel source to accept the calls that AOSP makes ... the framework.jar seems to have been modified kn some way to setup ril. without that modification aosp framework.jar wont setup ril so its a matter of spoting those changes and copying thrm to an aosp build. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest rjm2k Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 Anyone just asked zte for the RIL library source code? lol zte struggle to release code they are obliged to, ril belongs to qualcomm and is closed source so no way it will be released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hopelessness Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 What about the HTC Legend RIL? Would that not be compatible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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