Guest emergant Posted January 15, 2011 Report Posted January 15, 2011 With regard to the performance pack. Paul basically said from the outset that it was updates from nvidia. Anyone with the skill was welcome to go get it from nvidia and do the job themselves. I was happy to pay the money to support the site. Nobody held a gun to my head. Looking forward to r7. Hopefully we'll get other rom efforts on XDA too. More the merrier
Guest griff_dai Posted January 15, 2011 Report Posted January 15, 2011 (edited) Just been over at XDA...... Got my blood boiling at some of the comments..... Bunch of free loading, ungrateful scum.... I for one think the work MoDaCo and Paul does is 2nd to none...... Keep it up Paul, use the ban hammer on any fool posting s*** over at XDA and still are members here I say! Dai Edited January 16, 2011 by griff_dai
Guest wimsloboy Posted January 15, 2011 Report Posted January 15, 2011 here here spacecadetuk and all others in agreement........... I couldn't have said it better myself....... I haven't a scoobie how to do 90% of the stuff that Paul has provided and I def think its a bargain for the princely sum of £9.99 .... keep up the good work Paul at least most of the folk on here are rooting for you ... many thanks....... ;) :) :D
Guest carl rose Posted January 15, 2011 Report Posted January 15, 2011 Just been over at XDA...... Got my blood boiling at some of the comments..... But of free loading, ungrateful scum.... I for one think the work MoDaCo and Paul does is 2nd to none...... Keep it up Paul, use the ban hammer on any fool posting s*** over at XDA and still are members here I say! Dai Ha ha ha, use the ban hammer as this one hasn't paid and voiced his opinion on xda! Tabboo! Come on mate, drink a cold drink and get your blood pressure under control! People are aloud to voice their opinions where they go. If I get banned so be it. You "Fanboi" could not live without this place obviously. What did they say on xda that offended you sooooo much? The truth?
Guest simonta Posted January 16, 2011 Report Posted January 16, 2011 Ha ha ha, use the ban hammer as this one hasn't paid and voiced his opinion on xda! Tabboo! Come on mate, drink a cold drink and get your blood pressure under control! People are aloud to voice their opinions where they go. If I get banned so be it. You "Fanboi" could not live without this place obviously. What did they say on xda that offended you sooooo much? The truth? So far, this forum has been mercifully free of personal insults and childish "fanboi" language. Let's keep it that way eh?
Guest carl rose Posted January 16, 2011 Report Posted January 16, 2011 (edited) So far, this forum has been mercifully free of personal insults and childish "fanboi" language. Let's keep it that way eh? How is that a personal insult? Fanboi just means that you are a fan of someone? It's neither childish nor an insult. At least not in my book. yes sir, no sir, three bags full sir Edited January 16, 2011 by carl rose
Guest griff_dai Posted January 16, 2011 Report Posted January 16, 2011 funny thread.....That is all Here we have someone who don't like the MoDaCo model, yet your still here despite posting over at XDA your dislike of Paul's membership model.......
Guest zzleezz Posted January 16, 2011 Report Posted January 16, 2011 Pointless thread. I vote delete. Fine to post that there is another forum supporting development on Vega but all this bickering gets nobody nothing.
Guest ChocolateRobot Posted January 16, 2011 Report Posted January 16, 2011 With regard to the performance pack. Paul basically said from the outset that it was updates from nvidia. Anyone with the skill was welcome to go get it from nvidia and do the job themselves. I was happy to pay the money to support the site. Nobody held a gun to my head. Looking forward to r7. Hopefully we'll get other rom efforts on XDA too. More the merrier Totally agree. Also vote to delete. It's a waste of effort to keep this going.
Guest Schooleydoo Posted January 16, 2011 Report Posted January 16, 2011 Pointless thread. I vote delete. Fine to post that there is another forum supporting development on Vega but all this bickering gets nobody nothing. +1 This argument has been repeated countless times over the years and has only caused division. Grow up ;)
Guest carl rose Posted January 16, 2011 Report Posted January 16, 2011 +1 This argument has been repeated countless times over the years and has only caused division. Grow up ;) Yes, it accomplishes nothing but it does give you an idea that people believe in different things and everyone has their own opinion. Nobody here discredited paul's work, he does a lot for the community and there is no question about that. It's all about wether we agree that we should pay £10 for it or if it should've been a minimum lower donation. That's really it. Yes, I think most things have been said deleting this thread is pointless. It will die down and fade away anyway.
Guest zzleezz Posted January 16, 2011 Report Posted January 16, 2011 Yes, it accomplishes nothing but it does give you an idea that people believe in different things and everyone has their own opinion. Nobody here discredited paul's work, he does a lot for the community and there is no question about that. It's all about wether we agree that we should pay £10 for it or if it should've been a minimum lower donation. That's really it. Yes, I think most things have been said deleting this thread is pointless. It will die down and fade away anyway. It really is not about if we should pay £10 or not. Think you will find the title of the thread is XDA has a new Vega forum. Find something useful to say and add to the knowledge here.
Guest carl rose Posted January 16, 2011 Report Posted January 16, 2011 (edited) It really is not about if we should pay £10 or not. Think you will find the title of the thread is XDA has a new Vega forum. Find something useful to say and add to the knowledge here. Well, that's not the way the thread went is it smart pants? What did you say that it was so useful? I vote delete? That's very useful isn't it? If people are discussing and you have nothing constructive to say apart from delete the thread to shut everybody up just post in some other thread if you don't like it. Edited January 16, 2011 by carl rose
Guest zzleezz Posted January 16, 2011 Report Posted January 16, 2011 Well, that's not the way the thread went is it smart pants? What did you say that it was so useful? I vote delete? That's very useful isn't it? If people are discussing and you have nothing constructive to say apart from delete the thread to shut everybody up just post in some other thread if you don't like it. A topic has a title for a reason. Its there to inform forum users what the thread is supposed to contain. When people start discussing subjects not related to or that don't usefully contribute to the topic titled in the thread it is generally called going "Off Topic" of OT. In heavily moderated forums this is not allowed to happen, Modaco being quite a liberal and open community doesn't seem to generally have problems so there isn't really a need for heavy handed moderating. I hope this makes my point clearer for you, I have no wish to get into an immature name calling argument with you but if you insist I should warn you that I hold certificates in the martial art of Yarboosuks and could if I so wished reduce you to a blubbering tear soaked wreck in less than 3 moves. The last paragraph was meant to be humorous, I feel I need to be clear with you after your last post managed to contain more exclamation marks and question marks than full stops..... (Holds palms of hands together, bows and backs away maintaining eye contact)
Guest carl rose Posted January 16, 2011 Report Posted January 16, 2011 A topic has a title for a reason. Its there to inform forum users what the thread is supposed to contain. When people start discussing subjects not related to or that don't usefully contribute to the topic titled in the thread it is generally called going "Off Topic" of OT. In heavily moderated forums this is not allowed to happen, Modaco being quite a liberal and open community doesn't seem to generally have problems so there isn't really a need for heavy handed moderating. I hope this makes my point clearer for you, I have no wish to get into an immature name calling argument with you but if you insist I should warn you that I hold certificates in the martial art of Yarboosuks and could if I so wished reduce you to a blubbering tear soaked wreck in less than 3 moves. The last paragraph was meant to be humorous, I feel I need to be clear with you after your last post managed to contain more exclamation marks and question marks than full stops..... (Holds palms of hands together, bows and backs away maintaining eye contact) Ha ha, nice way to break tension. (Full stop) I like it. Ok, you have a point. (Full stop again). Thread should be renamed to say the least ;)
Guest Higgsy Posted January 16, 2011 Report Posted January 16, 2011 Here we have someone who don't like the MoDaCo model, yet your still here despite posting over at XDA your dislike of Paul's membership model....... Indeed... Yup I'm still here, you know what i posted on XDA, I haven't got any quarms with what I posted. I never said I didn't like the content of the site and I don't have to be paid member to post.
Guest bakedecake Posted January 16, 2011 Report Posted January 16, 2011 (edited) It's a free country, you pay your money, you make your choice, Paul has to put food on the table just like everyone else, this is his full time job not a hobby so thanks for your work Paul, I'll be renewing this year. Edited January 26, 2011 by bakedecake
Guest rferrett Posted January 16, 2011 Report Posted January 16, 2011 Crickey pop pickas we all need to take a chill pill I reckon. People can make up their own minds, some will like the MoDaCo way of doing thing and be happy to pay (i'm one of them) and others won't and will go elsewhere. For my tuppence worth both are fine. If Paul or anyone else either here, or a XDA or any other site has a problem with the way someone else has used their work, then for my money they are big enough to fight those battles themselves. I use XDA and here, both are good in their own ways. Ho hum.....
Guest pdej Posted January 16, 2011 Report Posted January 16, 2011 (edited) From the perspective of someone who doesn't have a clue when it comes to ROMS etc, I value paying the tenner for the instructions, support and mods. Admittedly if I would have waited for the XDA freeby I could have probably figured out how to do it for free putting two and two together. Paul and the others here made it a really easy process for me to get my Vega to a place where I am really happy with it. Seriously, if I would have bought it and this work wasn't in place when I recieved mine before Xmas it would have been returned. On the flip side if you have the knowledge to program or whatever it is you need to do to get this stuff together and you are not happy to pay but did, then more fool you. You didn't have to - was there anyone holding a gun to you telling you, you had to? And to the others in the middle moaning about the cost of 'subscription' 'performance pack' or whatever else you want to moan about, that's your choice, but at the end of the day there will always be people who a) can afford to pay, b/ are willing to pay and c) are happy to pay someone for their work - basic business model, supply and demand at the end of the day. I don't really care what the reason is for the tenner charge. It could be servers, bandwith, performance pack, support or more likely a mixture of all these with a bit of "I found a way to earn a bit of extra cash with my skills, and believe it or not there is some demand for that, so why not!". I don't begrudge the tenner in the slightest. Would I have liked it for less or free? Of course I would, I'm human, but then I was one of the few who got their Vega for £190, not £250 so an extra £10 didn't really factor since I was ready to pay the £250 in the first place. Overall it's a pointless arguement, if there are others bitching on one site and still coming back to MoDaCo for info I think that says everything you need to know! Edited January 16, 2011 by pdej
Guest rvdgeer Posted January 17, 2011 Report Posted January 17, 2011 I added quite a few posts, files, etc. to this forum, but still didn't hesitate to pay for an adfree account. That's right, I paid for an adfree account, not for the perfomance pack. It's true that at the moment you 'only' get the ROM kitchen and performance pack extra. But since you pay for a years subscription, why assume that'll be all? Everyone is entitled to his/her opinion and this is mine. I'm glad Paul made us this forum so we can discuss it! ;)
Guest Paul Posted January 17, 2011 Report Posted January 17, 2011 I didn't see this topic appear when I was the only person who got a Vega (I ended up buying two for testing), put the market on it, updated the drivers as the performance pack, released the smallbar tweak, built clockwork etc. etc. etc. (I could go on) when the device first came out. Nobody has to sign up to anything, nobody has to visit the site, nobody has to sign up or post. Let's keep this friendly and on topic and make the most of our devices. ;) Unfortunately i've had to learn to take topics like this on the chin, everyone is entitled to their opinion. P
Guest Paul Posted January 17, 2011 Report Posted January 17, 2011 Incidentally, someone asked me why I didn't just say that I incorporated the newer elements of the Nvidia SDK to make the performance pack (in fact, they were exceptionally rude, but hey)... they clearly didn't actually READ the performance pack post here. First post posted in the topic in November (!)... Basically what i've done here is analysed the 1.04 ROM alongside the NVidia reference ROM and incorporated all the newer components and performance tweaks into the add-on pack. The result, in my experience anyway, is a MUCH smoother operation of the device (i think it's flippin' amazing, but I'd love to hear second opinions!). *shrug* My input to this topic ends here. ;) P
Guest bennji_boy Posted January 17, 2011 Report Posted January 17, 2011 I didn't see this topic appear when I was the only person who got a Vega (I ended up buying two for testing), put the market on it, updated the drivers as the performance pack, released the smallbar tweak, built clockwork etc. etc. etc. (I could go on) when the device first came out. Nobody has to sign up to anything, nobody has to visit the site, nobody has to sign up or post. Let's keep this friendly and on topic and make the most of our devices. ;) Unfortunately i've had to learn to take topics like this on the chin, everyone is entitled to their opinion. P Just ignore them mate, I for one appreciate the stuff you've done and as it's been mentioned before, no one's being forced to pay the subs.
Guest newbe5 Posted January 17, 2011 Report Posted January 17, 2011 I'm sorry, but to the people who are sniping here that Paul basically "Jumped the Gun" and created the performance pack quickly as soon as the device came out in order to make money... The answer is... Sure, why the hell wouldn't he? Makes perfect sense. Doesn't mean he did it maliciously. There was a gap in the market that he filled in a very professional way and provided a fully working service where others were simply wondering what the Vega was and what they could do with it. He invested money purchasing devices for testing, and then provided a FREE pack that added a TON of content (google apps, full marketplace etc) as well as a simple pimple installer for everyone's convenience. Then made ONE item part of a premium package to cover the costs. ONE. Not all of it, he let everyone have 95% of his work for FREE. This is a business for people, and because there is the potential to make money, people like Paul can manage their time as a business asset, because they are making returns. I really don't see what the issue is. A lot of people who read these forums, and who participate on XDA could probably have done exactly what he did, but do we all have the time? No, we don't, and I think a tenner is a small price to pay for someone else to do all the heavy lifting (and testing/bricking etc) for us so that we can easily flash a simple to use package that works wonders for a device that we love. I CAN wallpaper my house, or service my car, but I'm buggered if I'm going to do it... I'll pay someone else to do it thankyou very much. Let's move on, there are plenty of other Vega enhancements on here that are free, as well (as stated above) as the majority of the r6 pack, and I'm sure there will be updates in the future that people who have subscribed will get FIRST, before the idea is copied. Very small price to pay methinks. Zeb
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