Guest wbaw Posted April 19, 2011 Report Posted April 19, 2011 thought TPT seems convienient to change the layout yet upgrading gen2 means upgrading the radio ... so no matter the merthod we use, TPT or dfu communication with the phone, writing these firmware files should bear the same risk of bricking it ? Right? unless we could make it without touching the spl... nvm/ imei data here I got the firmware file of Unicom Telecom version in China. the retail version is a Gen2 machine with 256mb system ram only. (512 mb for internal storage) http://hotfile.com/dl/114965356/fa33fac/un...2files.zip.html hope it would do something good. Thanks for the files, but if we use that chinese appsboot.mbn then it's likely to limit our phones to 256mb too. Also, this method isn't going to work for phones sold as gen2 or upgraded using the windows flash program. It'd be interesting (but very risky) to see if a Chinese phone was unlocked to 512mb by doing the swedish gen2 upgrade, like the greek gen1 phones were unlocked using the hungarian update. Less risky to try it now you've found the chinese firmware, it might provide a way back if it doesn't work. If a tpt gen1 -> gen2 upgrade is possible, then it shouldn't touch the imei & it should be reversible without affecting the imei too, it should be a lot safer, it's only the first person to try it that needs to take any risk.
Guest digital0 Posted April 20, 2011 Report Posted April 20, 2011 Why is there a risk, if TPT is not touched? If conversion to gen2 is unsuccessful, you can TPT back gen1 image, no?
Guest wbaw Posted April 20, 2011 Report Posted April 20, 2011 (edited) Why is there a risk, if TPT is not touched? If conversion to gen2 is unsuccessful, you can TPT back gen1 image, no? That should be right, but I bricked my old phone by flashing the gen2 version of oemsbl (the tpt part & one of the bootloaders) with the gen1 partition.mbn. This method should work, if we leave oemsbl.mbn out of it ... I'm just scared to try it first. Still untested, but if anybody wants to take the risk of breaking their phone, then here are the links. Obviously no warranty at all, they're totally untested & could break your phone. If it works, then we've just made a better, safer & reversible gen2 upgrade that doesn't disable TPT mode. Wipe data first & have a gen2 rom zip ready to install on your sd card ... this should upgrade you to gen2 & then boot into amon-ra recovery. The gen2 to gen1 package should put it back to gen1 & boot into amon-ra. *old links removed* - see this thread - http://android.modaco.com/content/zte-blad...n2-tpt-upgrade/ Edited April 22, 2011 by wbaw
Guest Schwinni Posted April 20, 2011 Report Posted April 20, 2011 If I were from the UK and could just walk into a store to get a new phone, I would try it. But I already waited 3 months for my first phone. :)
Guest samjam Posted April 20, 2011 Report Posted April 20, 2011 (edited) That should be right, but I bricked my old phone by flashing the gen2 version of oemsbl (the tpt part & one of the bootloaders) with the gen1 partition.mbn. This method should work, if we leave oemsbl.mbn out of it ... I'm just scared to try it first. Still untested, but if anybody wants to take the risk of breaking their phone, then here are the links. Obviously no warranty at all, they're totally untested & could break your phone. If it works, then we've just made a better, safer & reversible gen2 upgrade that doesn't disable TPT mode. Wipe data first & have a gen2 rom zip ready to install on your sd card ... this should upgrade you to gen2 & then boot into amon-ra recovery. The gen2 to gen1 package should put it back to gen1 & boot into amon-ra. gen1 to gen2 tpt - http://www.mediafire.com/?rmaiccqirop9iyu - c232d29072c2a42ca050089f0e95a05e gen2 to gen1 tpt - http://www.mediafire.com/?7spy38a1wrg7xsj - 484a37707fddfb50aae4f9bb075e0199 What's your paypal for email? I'll donate £10. If 9 other people do the same, or 18 other people donate £5 then you can replace your brick with a new "spare" phone and risk that. I mean - You've got the skills, the time AND the willingness to risk your phone! The least I can do is risk a small amount of cash to help share the burden in exchange for the benefits! Edited April 20, 2011 by samjam
Guest wbaw Posted April 21, 2011 Report Posted April 21, 2011 (edited) What's your paypal for email? I'll donate £10. If 9 other people do the same, or 18 other people donate £5 then you can replace your brick with a new "spare" phone and risk that. I mean - You've got the skills, the time AND the willingness to risk your phone! The least I can do is risk a small amount of cash to help share the burden in exchange for the benefits! Thanks... the PayPal donate link has been in the first post of this thread for a while, but nobody has clicked it. So I've added a big button & put it in my signature too. [email protected] is the email. Here is the button.. I don't have the willingness to break my phone, that's why the gen2 upgrade still hasn't been tested. I was overconfident with my first attempt, I thought I'd be able to fix it if it went wrong. This version should be fixable if it doesn't work & I can't see why it wouldn't work, but I've lost my confidence. If I can get enough for a new phone, then it'll speed up my development, it can be dedicated to development use. I need my current phone for work (self employed) so I can't keep messing up my only phone all the time. Also, I'm broke, I've already had more than my share of replacements from Orange, etc. Edited April 21, 2011 by wbaw
Guest digital0 Posted April 21, 2011 Report Posted April 21, 2011 Could anyone from the UK try the conversion? You can easily get the phone replaced if it is bricked.
Guest Maringer Posted April 21, 2011 Report Posted April 21, 2011 I'd try it but don't want to get a replacement with a TFT screen as I like the OLED on my SF. My girlfriend has a TFT Blade herself but would have my guts for garters if it screwed up and even took a couple of days to get a replacement! Hopefully somebody braver than me will have a try. :)
Guest Rotmann Posted April 22, 2011 Report Posted April 22, 2011 (edited) D00ds, GREAT news, wbaw you are a genius, this is a milestone! Just TPT'd the image folder from the gen1togen2.zip, gawddammit! :) it worked! Waited about 1-2 minutes max., booted automatically in Amon RA Recovery, flashed CM7 N41 and gapps, installed perfect, asked Mr. Pigfish, Gen2! Done the TPT from the image folder from gen2togen1.zip again, flashed CM7 RC4, asked Piggyfishy, Gen1! Flashed again to Gen2, happily running N41 now :) So happy! EDIT: What are your next plans wbaw? You said something about this week-end and some script to change partitions? As I said, I'm planning a guide for the German community and I want to make it when you have completed your short-time plans with the script, don't want to make the guide now and in 2 days it won't be actual anymore. That's why it would be better to reveal your "time scale". Hope you understand what I mean. I'm very tired, fingers-brain connection fails :( Edited April 22, 2011 by Rotmann
Guest CaptainSpectacular Posted April 22, 2011 Report Posted April 22, 2011 Yeah, some genius like wbaw are hidden by bigs team that doesn't care too much about peoples who support us... Anyway, great work. Do you have any idea for those who have already upgrade their phones with old method ? I can rollback to Gen1 with IMEI with just one digit wrong. So I suppose that if I try that with a wrong IMEI, the IMEI stay the same after the upgrade ? Anyway, great work again. :)
Guest hedgepigdaniel Posted April 22, 2011 Report Posted April 22, 2011 Yeah, some genius like wbaw are hidden by bigs team that doesn't care too much about peoples who support us... Anyway, great work. Do you have any idea for those who have already upgrade their phones with old method ? I can rollback to Gen1 with IMEI with just one digit wrong. So I suppose that if I try that with a wrong IMEI, the IMEI stay the same after the upgrade ? Anyway, great work again. :) This is all awesome news. For people whove already upgraded using the windows flash utility, The big question is whether flashing this new pseudo Gen2 image (via the gen1 - gen2 flasher) would corrupt the IMEI. I believe this program, (which keeps getting pulled from the site because it could change IMEIs), could probably be used to restore your IMEI if you have your original channel1.nvm and you can boot into FTM mode. It can also download TPT files as per the OP in the link, I wonder whether going gtom Gen2 to Gen1 that way would corrupt the IMEI? I tried the backup NV function and it created a channel1.nvm file like the one the upgrader makes, the difference being that this tool also has a restore NV function.
Guest CaptainSpectacular Posted April 22, 2011 Report Posted April 22, 2011 (edited) Interesting. Can you tell more about this program? I have already tried a program called QPST and I can change my IMEI on GEN 1, but only 14 digits...The 15th doesn't change. I have already tried the channel1.nvm trick during the flash but that give me wrong IMEI... Thanks. Edited April 22, 2011 by CaptainSpectacular
Guest hedgepigdaniel Posted April 22, 2011 Report Posted April 22, 2011 Interesting. Can you tell more about this program? I have already tried a program called QPST and I can change my IMEI on GEN 1, but only 14 digits...The 15th doesn't change. I have already tried the channel1.nvm trick during the flash but that give me wrong IMEI... Thanks. Well you can download it and play around with it (before it gets pulled again...), but its capabilities are downloading TPT Files, and backing up and restoring NV ("RF/BT/IMEI/Unlock Info"). You can download TPT files either in FTM mode or in Diagnostic mode (boot with vol+ and vol-). You can only use the backup and restore NV functions when using the program as administrator (the password is in the zip file), and when in FTM mode.
Guest womble_sanfran Posted April 22, 2011 Report Posted April 22, 2011 Thanks for all your work wbaw, I just donated you a small amount of money. I appreciate the extra space I now have for apps and how easy the whole process was.
Guest CaptainSpectacular Posted April 22, 2011 Report Posted April 22, 2011 Well you can download it and play around with it (before it gets pulled again...), but its capabilities are downloading TPT Files, and backing up and restoring NV ("RF/BT/IMEI/Unlock Info"). You can download TPT files either in FTM mode or in Diagnostic mode (boot with vol+ and vol-). You can only use the backup and restore NV functions when using the program as administrator (the password is in the zip file), and when in FTM mode. Ok, thanks, I will take a look at this. I don't wan't to brick the phone but I search for a way to go back to GEN 1 cause I've better reception in GEN 1 than GEN 2...
Guest Maringer Posted April 22, 2011 Report Posted April 22, 2011 D00ds, GREAT news, wbaw you are a genius, this is a milestone! Just TPT'd the image folder from the gen1togen2.zip, gawddammit! :) it worked! Waited about 1-2 minutes max., booted automatically in Amon RA Recovery, flashed CM7 N41 and gapps, installed perfect, asked Mr. Pigfish, Gen2! Done the TPT from the image folder from gen2togen1.zip again, flashed CM7 RC4, asked Piggyfishy, Gen1! Flashed again to Gen2, happily running N41 now :) So happy! Kudos for the bravery - I'll bet you were a bit nervous when trying out the TPT conversion! I think I'll probably wait until the few remaining CM7 bugs have been fixed before upgrading to Gen2 myself (or attempting to upgrade my girlfriend's Blade!). It's good to hear that we have the opportunity to downgrade to Gen1 as necessary, however.
Guest wbaw Posted April 22, 2011 Report Posted April 22, 2011 (edited) D00ds, GREAT news, wbaw you are a genius, this is a milestone! Just TPT'd the image folder from the gen1togen2.zip, gawddammit! :) it worked! Waited about 1-2 minutes max., booted automatically in Amon RA Recovery, flashed CM7 N41 and gapps, installed perfect, asked Mr. Pigfish, Gen2! Done the TPT from the image folder from gen2togen1.zip again, flashed CM7 RC4, asked Piggyfishy, Gen1! Flashed again to Gen2, happily running N41 now :) So happy! EDIT: What are your next plans wbaw? You said something about this week-end and some script to change partitions? As I said, I'm planning a guide for the German community and I want to make it when you have completed your short-time plans with the script, don't want to make the guide now and in 2 days it won't be actual anymore. That's why it would be better to reveal your "time scale". Hope you understand what I mean. I'm very tired, fingers-brain connection fails :( Great, it works :huh: First, I'll do a new version with a better fixed partition layout, similar to what you just used but with better partitions. I might try different gen2 versions too, it should be easy to switch between them with this. Is there an official cyanogen clockworkmod for gen2 yet? I'm also going to make a new thread for it. Then I'll try to do a converter, integrate it with this tpt backup script & kallt's cm7 converter ... so people will be able to run one script & have it generate a gen2 or gen1 tpt with optimum partition sizes, fixed kernel & ril, etc. This could take a while. Edited April 22, 2011 by wbaw
Guest CaptainSpectacular Posted April 22, 2011 Report Posted April 22, 2011 Great, it works :) First, I'll do a new version with a better fixed partition layout, similar to what you just used but with better partitions. I might try different gen2 versions too, it should be easy to switch between them with this. Is there an official cyanogen clockworkmod for gen2 yet? I'm also going to make a new thread for it. Then I'll try to do a converter, integrate it with this tpt backup script & kallt's cm7 converter ... so people will be able to run one script & have it generate a gen2 or gen1 tpt with optimum partition sizes, fixed kernel & ril, etc. This could take a while. Sorry for being ignorant, but it's mean that we could back on GEN1 from GEN2 ? Anyway great work. :)
Guest Rotmann Posted April 22, 2011 Report Posted April 22, 2011 Kudos for the bravery - I'll bet you were a bit nervous when trying out the TPT conversion! I couldn't wait anymore, just had to test it :) The 1-2 minutes were a little like hell but seing the Amon RA recovery was a relief Sorry for being ignorant, but it's mean that we could back on GEN1 from GEN2 ? Anyway great work. :) Read my post, if you upgrade through wbaw's TPT method from Gen1 to Gen2 you can TPT back from Gen2 to Gen1 as simple as it gets. @wbaw, no Gen2 official clockwork recovery yet. Could you use sebastian's one? Most people are not confortable with Amon RA, the statistics say that 80% of the blade users use clockwork and only 0,69% use Amon RA. Also could you do a 136MB /system and 2MB /cache one? That's what the most people want. No OEM rubbish. Thanks, waiting anxiously for the final version.
Guest bhf Posted April 22, 2011 Report Posted April 22, 2011 @wbaw, no Gen2 official clockwork recovery yet. Could you use sebastian's one? Most people are not confortable with Amon RA, the statistics say that 80% of the blade users use clockwork and only 0,69% use Amon RA. Can someone test, if NANDroid backups with cwm 3.0.1.4 (Gen1) are compatible to restore with amonra or cwm 3.0.2.4 (Gen2)? If not, a little guidance how to proceed to backup the phone's data and restore after switching to Gen2 would be highly appreciated. Also could you do a 136MB /system and 2MB /cache one? That's what the most people want. No OEM rubbish. Thanks, waiting anxiously for the final version. This is already announced in the official thread. It will last a couple of days, but it will come. :)
Guest Abhijeet357 Posted April 22, 2011 Report Posted April 22, 2011 Blade Backup version 0.1alpha3 - 22/03/2011 This is experimental software, don't blame me if you break your phone with it. This is only for 'Gen1' UK & European ZTE Blades & Orange San Franciscos that came with a 2.1 version stock rom. It wont work on new 'Gen2' Blades. It will automatically detect if you have one of the newer type of Blades & refuse to run if you do. See this thread for more details & ask Mr Pigfish if you're still unsure. It looks like it might be close to impossible to update this script to work on Gen2 phones. This is a script to be run with clockworkmod 3 (in the same way you'd flash a new rom) that will create a tpt backup of your phone with new internal nand memory partition sizes. This can be used to give you more space to install apps on your phone's internal memory. It doesn't touch the sdcard, it wont backup any apps2sd apps, but it wont harm them either. Because of this it is not suitable as a long term backup solution, if you chose to 'wipe data/factory reset' in clockwork or similar, then a backup created with this script will not restore any apps you had on your sd card, use clockworkmod to create backups for that. It also wont create, alter or delete any apps2sd on it's own & it isn't for partitioning your sd card, it's only for the internal storage. It will calculate the partition sizes automatically, based on how much space your current rom is using, it should always give you around 11mb free space on /system which should be plenty for any rom updates. There are 3 versions of this - blade_backup_alpha3-nocache-auto-10.zip mirror mirror (MD5: 92ef876d30faaaff9c1e12789abfaf49) The nocache version will shrink your cache partition to 2mb, to give you an extra 40mb for your data partition. This works fine on CM7, it already has the scripts to take care of it. On Froyo (2.2) this new version of blade backup will patch your current rom, but if you install another froyo rom later, then you'll also need to install this patch, or your market wont work: cache2tmpfs mirror mirror (md5sum: c89cb62c10e6ff622d1a4c1809596e91). It wont work on Eclair (2.1) roms. You should get about 100mb more free internal storage space with this version compared to stock. blade_backup_alpha3-cache-auto-10.zip mirror mirror (MD5: ccc8ee73eb999b2d5fc1b65b5884f864) The cache version leaves you with a standard 41mb /cache partition & just resizes the system partition, giving you about 60mb extra internal storage space, over stock sizes. It should work with any rom (including 2.1 Eclair roms) with no extra patches. blade_backup_alpha3-return-to-stock.zip mirror mirror (MD5: 90ed88463adf6b771a097db6aadb8cb6) The return to stock version resets your partition sizes to stock sizes (41mb cache 207mb system 208mb data) Method Install clockworkmod 3. Use Rom Manager or download here & flash with fastboot. Copy the blade backup .zip to your sdcard. You will need at least 500mb free space on your sdcard & plenty of charge in your battery. Turn off your phone & leave it for 30 seconds. Turn it on with vol - held to go into clockwork. Flash zip from sdcard -> choose zip from sdcard -> blade_backup.zip Wait for the backup to complete, it will take a few minutes. Reboot. Look in the /image directory of your sdcard, if everything went ok, then it should have a file named '00-PART-XX-XXX-XXX' the Xs are the partition sizes. If you dont see that file, there may be a different one describing an error. Turn off your phone & leave it for 30 seconds. Turn it on with vol+ & menu held to flash the new partition sizes. Delete or rename the image directory on your sd card after installing, to prevent installing it again accidentally. Other stuff As a side effect this will also allow newer 'B10' type phones to boot into fastboot mode by holding vol+ & power on (make sure you delete the image directory first!), just like the old blades. It should fix 256mb Greek blades to 512mb. It may fix the touch screen problems on new 'B20' blades. Power Users There are some more (mostly untested) options which you can set in META-INF/com/google/android/updater-script On line 19 you should see this line... run_program("/tmp/image/backup-script.sh", "fast", "nocache", "auto", "10"); The first option can be set to "fast", "full", or "nodata". fast is standard, it backs up boot system & userdata. full backs up the splash & recovery images too. nodata replaces userdata with a blank image. The second option is cache or nocache, cache gives you a 42mb cache partition, nocache gives you 2mb The third option is either "auto" "manual" or "stock". auto calculates a size for the system partition based on how big the backed up system.img is. manual lets you set a manual size for system. stock sets stock partition sizes, you must also use "cache" with the stock option. The final option is either the amount of free space added to the system partition, for auto mode, or the size of the system partition in manual mode. In megabytes. Does nothing if previous option is set to stock. If you're going to edit that line, then you can download any of the versions, that's the only difference between them. Like this script? Want to see more of my work? I have installed cm7 n39 im unable to go in tpt mode . i have tried number of times pressing menu and volume + key but the tpt process doesn't start. plsase help me . is there another method to flash the zip ? please help me.
Guest Abhijeet357 Posted April 22, 2011 Report Posted April 22, 2011 (edited) a Edited April 22, 2011 by Abhijeet357
Guest Rotmann Posted April 22, 2011 Report Posted April 22, 2011 RTFM again, you have to flash the zip AND THEN TPT with power and Vol Up.
Guest isambard Posted April 23, 2011 Report Posted April 23, 2011 D00ds, GREAT news, wbaw you are a genius, this is a milestone! Just TPT'd the image folder from the gen1togen2.zip, gawddammit! :) it worked! Waited about 1-2 minutes max., booted automatically in Amon RA Recovery, flashed CM7 N41 and gapps, installed perfect, asked Mr. Pigfish, Gen2! Done the TPT from the image folder from gen2togen1.zip again, flashed CM7 RC4, asked Piggyfishy, Gen1! Flashed again to Gen2, happily running N41 now :) So happy! EDIT: What are your next plans wbaw? You said something about this week-end and some script to change partitions? As I said, I'm planning a guide for the German community and I want to make it when you have completed your short-time plans with the script, don't want to make the guide now and in 2 days it won't be actual anymore. That's why it would be better to reveal your "time scale". Hope you understand what I mean. I'm very tired, fingers-brain connection fails :( nice one. i figured this method should work. btw, i got your message, but this weekend i had to take the gf out before i got shot after so many late nights of android development! :huh: i think the more difficult thing now is to figure out a good way of converting the 'trapped' Gen2's back to this hybrid Gen2 model.
Guest Abhijeet357 Posted April 23, 2011 Report Posted April 23, 2011 RTFM again, you have to flash the zip AND THEN TPT with power and Vol Up. i have flashed the zip but my cell dont go in the TPT mode pressing volume+ and power button.
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