Guest danfrance Posted February 4, 2011 Report Posted February 4, 2011 (edited) I'm sorry, I stumbled across this thread on one of my rare catch up visits and I felt the need to chip in (although Eddy, can I assure you I am not following you around ;) ) Yes there are plenty of roms out there and its thanks to the great development community based around this very popular device. Its a prolific scene but I have to stress that for me personally, I feel that MoDaCo is the corner stone of its beginnings. Paul supplied my first 2.1 and 2.2 based custom roms and tought me how to root the desire in the early days (and the Hero too I think). The roms are good and stable. Perhaps they are not as different from what we start with as some other roms but I the development and flashing community owe a lot to this work, not to mention all the other advances and developments Paul puts in. I understand that everyone wants to get their voice heard and debate is good, but this thread is inappropriate and i think down right disrespectful. Edited February 4, 2011 by danfrance
Guest EddyOS Posted February 4, 2011 Report Posted February 4, 2011 Paranoid, not really? I've nothing to worry about thanks... Maybe it's the mentality of this forum to expect the information to be laid out in plain view. In which case fair enough. I prefer the XDA approach - search first, ask second (as per rule 1 of the XDA forum). I know this forum doesn't have this rule but when you see the SAME thread crop up every week you do despair at the users on the forum and their ability to try and work something out for themselves Looks like this forum has finally lost the ability to help, which I suppose is the point of the original post!
Guest tigris666 Posted February 6, 2011 Report Posted February 6, 2011 Too many people post different 'guides', though - which leads to MORE confusion. I didn't follow any, I just used the information provided by the people who made the thing I was trying to do (Paul for originally rooting the Desire, and then the unrEVOked team). I didn't use someone's version of doing it - I used the OFFICIAL method of doing it and it worked. Extra guides lead to confusion and even greater chance of doing damage so where I understand the OP I still feel it was a bit pointless other than a 'look at me' exercise. This is just my take on it and if it helps others out then fair enough. But the more people that properly tag posts where possible so searching gives better results then it means more information can be kept to one location as opposed to multiple posts, the better This! When I first got my desire, i found about 10 different ways to gold card the stock sd card, 5 different ways to root it, and about 20 different ways to setup apps2sd, at least 18 of which are now outdated. If there was only ONE guide for each of these, and the OP for this guide actually maintained his post, then it would be perfect for new users. Unfortunately this doesn't happen, and so when there is a "new" way to do something, someone comes out with a new guide. Perfect example is the gold card. Pauls sticky on creating a gold card is still about 20 steps, including doing manual crap to get your CID etc. Where as there is now a windows tool that will do about 15 of those steps for you. Also a lot of the guides (including the one at the start of this thread) don't include how to get `adb` up and running on your PC. E.g. what if I have a mac? or linux? It explains how to partition for a2sd with amonRA, but most other guides will tell you to do with manually with gparted. In fact try and get help on XDA and they will not even talk to you unless you partitioned that way. Eddy's point, which I agree with, (he just was a bit rude in getting it across), is that many guides like this make for confusion down the track when half of these steps are irrelevant, outdated, and just plain don't work anymore. Unless Kongo is going to maintain it. Really a discussion forum software like this and XDA is the wrong solution for stuff like this. I like leedroid's idea of having a website with a wiki and keeping that up to date with current list of HOWTO's. It's just a pity his ROMs just plain suck.
Guest EddyOS Posted February 6, 2011 Report Posted February 6, 2011 It was frustration, coming across as rude :P
Guest kongo09 Posted February 6, 2011 Report Posted February 6, 2011 Really a discussion forum software like this and XDA is the wrong solution for stuff like this. I like leedroid's idea of having a website with a wiki and keeping that up to date with current list of HOWTO's. It's just a pity his ROMs just plain suck. Fully agree with you. A wiki would be the way to go. And also agree with EddyOS (in the end): my OP also was frustration, coming across as rude to some :P
Guest M Brouns Posted February 6, 2011 Report Posted February 6, 2011 And also agree with EddyOS (in the end): my OP also was frustration, coming across as rude to some :P Guys, good you stopped the cat fight ;-) What I kind of miss next to this great forum is a wiki. The advantage of wiki-s are, that they tend to be more structured and invite anyone to update outdated information. In stead of having to scroll through 115 pages of posts you all find the relevant stuff on a single page. If that was available, I would fully agree with EddyOS. For now, I kind of feel frustrated too. Not because I have a Desire that is already becoming a legacy handset ( :D ) but mainly because things are being promised and not followed up over here. As a paying user, I'd love to get an improved ROM. To be honest, the XDA jungle isn't really my thing. With a busy job, a wife and three kids I don't have 4 hours a day to spend on upgrading my phone with the laterst versions of boot loaders, tun.ko's, busyboxes, radio images, nandroid backups, etc etc. That's what I loved about the kitchen. It's like driving thru McDrive in stead of cutting your own fries with three yelling toddlers hanging on your jeans. Hope Paul will find some spare time finalizing R10 and perhaps flabbergast us all by upgrading the R10 to include Android 2.3 :huh:
Guest gianfrancovialli10 Posted February 13, 2011 Report Posted February 13, 2011 It's guys like yourself that totally annoy me. Everything I've said is covered somewhere else. Nothing is original content. No one cares if you care. So please write something constructive and helpful. It shouldn't be your problem if I'm happy to share my learnings with others that don't want to waste their time searching around the forums. Next one to complain, please send me a private message and spare others your negative attitude. Very true. Thanks for taking the the time to help someone else. Just ignore people like eddyos who pbly has a very miserable life that he has to put others down to make himself better. Totally agree with you. There are much better ROMs over at XDA.
Guest EddyOS Posted February 13, 2011 Report Posted February 13, 2011 (edited) I have an awesome life dude, I'm a DJ, own my own house and am about to marry my girlfriend...:P You'll also find one of MY ROMs over on XDA, as I like to help out WHEN IT IS WARRANTED. I don't, however, tolerate people whining when a quick search will give all the answers you need Edited February 13, 2011 by EddyOS
Guest sagim Posted February 13, 2011 Report Posted February 13, 2011 No it shouldn't be on a plate as it defeats the point of searching. If you're doing a degree you don't expect to be given it on a plate do you?!?! If you can't be bothered to actually find the information yourself then you shouldn't be rooting in the first place Also, if you want a ROM based on the HD/Z - get it from Robocik. All others are copies of his work or slightly changed. Go straight for the best HD ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=789830 Z ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=837948 A newbee question, so please don't chop my head ... What are the differences between the HD version (or in short which will be the best for use?)? D2WE, D2EXT or A2SD probably when querying for better it will be speed and available space Thanks
Guest EddyOS Posted February 13, 2011 Report Posted February 13, 2011 HD ROMs are based on the Desire HD version of Sense. As they're larger than stock you NEED at least an EXT3 partition to run just the apps OR an EXT3 partition to move the whole /data partition to the SD card. For the latter you need at least a Class 6 MicroSDHC card to make ti worth while There are threads on XDA as to the positives/negatives of each - personally I don't use Data2SD as 1. I've got a Class 2 card, and 2. I don't use an HD ROM They are good, though, and worth looking at if you wanna see what Sense 2.0 offers
Guest volatile_ink Posted February 14, 2011 Report Posted February 14, 2011 So many ROM's.... Can't decide. Got to have something more up-to-date than MCR, so going to try this one. Seems to be updated regularly and has a few interesting mods in the second post.
Guest EddyOS Posted February 14, 2011 Report Posted February 14, 2011 Good ROM but TERRIBLE name!! LOL!! :D
Guest volatile_ink Posted February 14, 2011 Report Posted February 14, 2011 (edited) Good ROM but TERRIBLE name!! LOL!! :D +1 :D Yep, I've found an alternative to MCR. Updated regularly, stable, fast, customisable and with Sense. Bye all. :) Edited February 14, 2011 by volatile_ink
Guest dunbad Posted February 14, 2011 Report Posted February 14, 2011 +1 :D Yep, I've found an alternative to MCR. Updated regularly, stable, fast, customisable and with Sense. Bye all. :) Well done. Finally people are slowly and increasingly starting to realise that there is life left in the desire. (just no longer on this site!) Xda is not the dangerous place some people I'm sure would have you believe it is. I'm currently on espresso hd rom. Its great, and good communication with the dev. Don't forget to donate guys if you like what you see over at xda. There's no tricks or false promises involved. Just honest guys working very hard to share good roms, if you like their rom, drop them a coin or two.:D
Guest Iceberger Posted February 15, 2011 Report Posted February 15, 2011 So many ROM's.... Can't decide. Got to have something more up-to-date than MCR, so going to try this one. Seems to be updated regularly and has a few interesting mods in the second post. I'm also using it for a while. I used Android Commander to remove the unneeded packages from system. And it rocks! very fast indeed!
Guest Chandler3224 Posted February 15, 2011 Report Posted February 15, 2011 So many ROM's.... Can't decide. Got to have something more up-to-date than MCR, so going to try this one. Seems to be updated regularly and has a few interesting mods in the second post. Holy crap, this starburst rom is so bloody quick!
Guest Diggedy Posted February 18, 2011 Report Posted February 18, 2011 (edited) I think the jist of this thread is to say that the MCR isn't the ONLY ROM available for the Desire. There is a whole world of variation available if you venture out the confines of MoDaCo I pretty much live on XDA these days - bit more 'geeky' but people know their stuff! Thats probably why this is a good thread. When I bought my omnia years ago, a quick google search lead me here and I never realised XDA was actually a better source for roms and apps, I just assumed it was a developer site where techy people talked tech stuff all day. I imagine there are people like me who have just bought a desire and have started here assuming this is the best place to be and the only place for good roms. The problem with XDA is the name, its misleading really :D And anyone who doesnt like sense and other HTC stuff and rely on pauls kitchen to remove it, try the new cyanogenmod 7, its very very good :D Edited February 18, 2011 by Diggedy
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