[ROM][GEN2]CyanogenMod 7 (Android 2.3.7)

[Guest buneech]

Issues? I don't see any issues, and quite frankly, i'm thankful that TomG and HCDR.Jacob took time to get the Blade to this level. I'm still using RC4, because it is stable enough for me. Everything i use on the phone, works. So I don't have any issues. I'm planning on updating to a stable 7.0.0 version in the upcoming days, but to be honest, i don't feel any need.

[Guest tonycornholio]

Without Android dev community - Orange San Francisco with bloatware and Android 2.1

With Android dev community - ZTE Blade with a near perfect CM7 / Android 2.3.3

I haven't a bad thing to say about the dev community, even if they all downed tools tomorrow and never did another bit of work. Cheers guys.

[Guest alex1alex2alex3alex4]

Issues? I don't see any issues

Lucky you, but even when you don't see any that doesn't mean there are none :)

The last couple of pages here indicate there are a number of more or less annoying

bugs, some (charger) affect me, some (accelerometer, I don't play games on my phone)

don't, everyone's profile is different, of course.

I'd suggest to stay on RC4 for now when you are happy with it,

because the issue shutting down the phone when connected to the charger (and others)

appear to have been introduced later, somewhere around N36, at least that's the first

version I encountered it with.

[Guest simonckenyon]

Sorry, but you are missing the point, he did not insult me personally,

but the community, which I feel being part of.

Nuff said.

Slán agat.

there seem to be quite a few bladers in ireland!

[Guest buneech]

Lucky you, but even when you don't see any that doesn't mean there are none :)

I'd suggest to stay on RC4 for now when you are happy with it,

because the issue shutting down the phone when connected to the charger (and others)

appear to have been introduced later, somewhere around N36, at least that's the first

version I encountered it with.

Duly noted! :)

Edited April 14, 2011 by buneech

[Guest Bhavz]

Some people need a slap or two. You are hacking your phones with firmwares you wouldn't otherwise get if it were not for the great dev people on this forum. Stop complaining to such an extent that someone (me) feels like grabbing you through the screen and knocking some sense into you. I am on nightly 28 and yes there are some minor problems, but even if they were major I wouldn't complain; I have got Android 2.3 on my phone, and it works = me content. These guys, in hindsight, could sell this stuff if they wanted to but you are getting it all FREE....so stop moaning and enjoy what they are providing us with.

Edited April 14, 2011 by Bhavz

[Guest Ciels]

Some people need a slap or two. You are hacking your phones with firmwares you wouldn't otherwise get if it were not for the great dev people on this forum. Stop complaining to such an extent that someone (me) feels like grabbing you through the screen and knocking some sense into you. I am on nightly 28 and yes there are some minor problems, but even if they were major I wouldn't complain; I have got Android 2.3 on my phone, and it works = me content. These guys, in hindsight, could sell this stuff if they wanted to but you are getting it all FREE....so stop moaning and enjoy what they are providing us with.

Isn't that illegal, selling Googles code?

Thought they'd have something to say.

Also what's a beta with no testers.

Point is, i'm not disagreeing but we aren't a small community of users.

[Guest dazbaz996]

Some people need a slap or two. You are hacking your phones with firmwares you wouldn't otherwise get if it were not for the great dev people on this forum. Stop complaining to such an extent that someone (me) feels like grabbing you through the screen and knocking some sense into you. I am on nightly 28 and yes there are some minor problems, but even if they were major I wouldn't complain; I have got Android 2.3 on my phone, and it works = me content. These guys, in hindsight, could sell this stuff if they wanted to but you are getting it all FREE....so stop moaning and enjoy what they are providing us with.

+1, i couldn't have put it better myself.

I am on the stable release and couldn't be happier with it, lets give the devs the respect and gratitude they deserve and stop the pissing and moaning. If your not happy go back to the stock rom that came with your phone, then try complaining to orange and see how far that gets you.

[Guest dazbaz996]

Every nightly i've tried for the last week upto and including the stable release has suffered from quite a lot of random freezes and crashes, especially while charging up for some reason.

Am unsure how to check the log file to see whats causing it though -.-

Are you overclocking the phone ?

I haven't had any freezes or reboots since installing the stable release.

Did you do a full wipe, factory reset etc ?.

I upgraded mine from nightly 38, booted into recovery manager and wiped the cache and the dcache and the phone has been rock solid.

[Guest simonckenyon]

Isn't that illegal, selling Googles code?

Thought they'd have something to say.

Also what's a beta with no testers.

Point is, i'm not disagreeing but we aren't a small community of users.

selling? who did you pay for cm7?

and no, it is all above board and legal.

[Guest Saransh Agarwal]

selling? who did you pay for cm7?

and no, it is all above board and legal.

+1

[Guest Victor von Zeppelin]

Going totally off topic...can I have anyone confirm that a few certain apps really bog down the system after a while? Menus moving at 2fps or so, etc.? So far, both Pulse news reader and Engadget have done this. My usual usage is to use them for a few minutes, browse around, and then just quit to the homescreen. After one cycle of sleep/wake up, the systems incredibly slow. It's not hard to force close the apps, but it's damned annoying. So, Indeed, can anyone else confirm this? Or any similar apps...

[Guest popoyaya]

selling? who did you pay for cm7?

and no, it is all above board and legal.

Some people should try to read the thread properly. He was merely suggesting that it WOULD be illegal to try and sell the code. And there's nothing above board about that.

[Guest dazbaz996]

Some people should try to read the thread properly. He was merely suggesting that it WOULD be illegal to try and sell the code. And there's nothing above board about that.

Yeah you should, last time I went to school a question mark at the end of a sentence implies that it is indeed a question, not a suggestion.

[Guest jeddy1]

Some people should try to read the thread properly. He was merely suggesting that it WOULD be illegal to try and sell the code. And there's nothing above board about that.

yes you are tottaly right that some people should try to read it.i mean it for you.read it better bec they are not selling googles code or whatever but it was just a question.do not talk for the others but watch always urself.u know why i say it.because when i was playing around with roms for my pulse we had software updates earlier than huawei.google is the same.they release the sources and what they do?the devs here build a new rom faster than google.we are happy of course.what bothers you? you know there are custom roms also

Edited April 14, 2011 by jeddy1

[Guest simonckenyon]

Some people should try to read the thread properly. He was merely suggesting that it WOULD be illegal to try and sell the code. And there's nothing above board about that.

please read the licence agreements. there is nothing illegal in selling the code for cm7 which is licended under an apache licence (or the linux kernel which is GPL'd). all perfectly above board.

but you would have to be pretty stupid to buy what is currently free.

now if you are talking about the google apps - these are closed source

[Guest jayhix]

Going totally off topic...can I have anyone confirm that a few certain apps really bog down the system after a while? Menus moving at 2fps or so, etc.? So far, both Pulse news reader and Engadget have done this. My usual usage is to use them for a few minutes, browse around, and then just quit to the homescreen. After one cycle of sleep/wake up, the systems incredibly slow. It's not hard to force close the apps, but it's damned annoying. So, Indeed, can anyone else confirm this? Or any similar apps...

going back to the actual topic of this thread, i have about 20+ apps on my phone installed, after a while i too get screen lock ups, launcher crashes and general slowness (notification bar not responding). so i too would like to know the answer to this question, my personal opinion is it is the rom, as ive not installed more apps than i used to run on rc4 and that was perfectly fine

[Guest unrandomsam]

Some people should try to read the thread properly. He was merely suggesting that it WOULD be illegal to try and sell the code. And there's nothing above board about that.

Its illegal to redistribute google apps without specifically having their permission.

Illegal is illegal there is no half way.

(Copyright infringement is identical whether or not the application is available free from the other party or not.)

Look at the cease and desist sent to Cyanogen.

(Anyone else is just not big enough for google to care thats all).

[Guest Victor von Zeppelin]

going back to the actual topic of this thread, i have about 20+ apps on my phone installed, after a while i too get screen lock ups, launcher crashes and general slowness (notification bar not responding). so i too would like to know the answer to this question, my personal opinion is it is the rom, as ive not installed more apps than i used to run on rc4 and that was perfectly fine

Hmmm, indeed, I never had the Engadget problem in 2.2, but I've never used pulse on froyo, so I don't know there. It definitely feels like a this-rom sorta thing... ANd it's not lock ups...just slowness.

[Guest popoyaya]

Yeah you should, last time I went to school a question mark at the end of a sentence implies that it is indeed a question, not a suggestion.

On planet Earth a question can imply a suggestion.

[Guest ThrashMan]

Hmmm, indeed, I never had the Engadget problem in 2.2, but I've never used pulse on froyo, so I don't know there. It definitely feels like a this-rom sorta thing... ANd it's not lock ups...just slowness.

Exactly why some people are disheartened that GEN1 CM7 development has stopped. Users are left with an awkward decision:

1. Stay with GEN1 and have the option to swap back to MDC, FBL etc

(a lot of users experiencing shutdowns during charging on the last few releases leaves an air of unease)

2. Go GEN2 and trust that CM7 will be completed as we currently won't be able to revert to GEN1

Don't want to be left with a ROM the developers are saying is "final" or "stable" when users are having problems

I understand that "that's the way it is", "take it or leave it" seems to be the position, it just doesn't make any sense why a developer would want to leave a project "unfinished".

There is no one in this forum that doesn't apreciate the time and effort of the developers, but when developing you have to be able to take the criticism as well as the praise.

Although I don't feel people have been critical, I think they just want to understand what's going on and why.

P.S. I don't want any flame war etc The above is merely an observation and not a dig at anyone.

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Just noticed the thread title......made me chuckle :)

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Edited April 14, 2011 by ThrashMan

[Guest dibbles]

Exactly why some people are disheartened that GEN1 CM7 development has stopped. Users are left with an awkward decision:

1. Stay with GEN1 and have the option to swap back to MDC, FBL etc

(a lot of users experiencing shutdowns during charging on the last few releases leaves an air of unease)

2. Go GEN2 and trust that CM7 will be completed as we currently won't be able to revert to GEN1

Don't want to be left with a ROM the developers are saying is "final" or "stable" when users are having problems

I understand that "that's the way it is", "take it or leave it" seems to be the position, it just doesn't make any sense why a developer would want to leave a project "unfinished".

There is no one in this forum that doesn't apreciate the time and effort of the developers, but when developing you have to be able to take the criticism as well as the praise.

Although I don't feel people have been critical, I think they just want to understand what's going on and why.

P.S. I don't want any flame war etc The above is merely an observation and not a dig at anyone.

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Just noticed the thread title......made me chuckle :)

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I understand your points but you do have a third option....

Do nothing but carry on using your Gen 1 phone with the very last of the nightlies which works or one of the other 2.2 ROM and keep watching how the CM7 develops when it is being made for the Gen 2 phones. When it gets to the point where you see some "real" advantage in moving over to the latest CM7 (Gen 2) you can do that from an informed position rather than just speculating on what might or might not happen :)

Also someone might port over the Gen 2 releases for the Gen 1 users to use, like what happens now. Albeit they will not have the support of bug reporting etc that also could be an option.

The project will not be left unfinished it just needs to continue in the 2nd generation format as those people who have those phones can't "downgrade" to use CM7 and it might come a point, until the Blade becomes obsolete, that anyone buying a new one will only get a Gen 2 as std. In some places this already occurs. At least I can upgrade my Gen 1 phone to take advantage of the continued development, albeit I'm a little apprehensive to do so at this stage, but I know that I do not have to do it.

BTW - I too smiled at the title thread, especially as I used to own two different Reliant Regals and three Robins :)

[Guest samjam]

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P.S. I don't want any flame war etc The above is merely an observation and not a dig at anyone.

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Just noticed the thread title......made me chuckle :)

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it's a fair observation.

I think the disappoint arises because everyone hopes for a personal salvation from the ravages of corporatism - i.e. who wants to get left with sucky 2.1 with Orange bits... and folk hope that this si what it is. Of course the devs do it for their own reasons, and the results of that work comes close to what folk want; the the corporates already learned that always some people will be unsatisfied.

The fact is "that's life".

What is hard is not being able to find anyone to "take your money" and "make it right".

But - that's life.

[Guest evilpaul]

I think the first thing people need to do is stop thinking about Gen1 this and Gen2 that. The important thing is that CyanogenMod7 will continue to be developed for the blade, bugs will be fixed and issues will be resolved.

It just so happens that in the near future if you want to use an official CM7 build you will have to have a Gen2 phone.

This means that if you have a Gen1 phone you can...

1) update your phone to a Gen2 phone, as per the sticky in this very forum

2) Recompile the CM7 kernel source with the memory map changes and RIL libraries to support a Gen1 phone

3) Use someone else's compiled binaries from 2)

If you choose option 1 then you carry on as normal using the official releases. great!

If you choose option 2 or 3, then you will not be able to report bugs and issues directly to the CM team, but you will still get the bug fixes everyone else gets. great!

I can understand the concern over not wanting to update your phone, for whatever reason, but it is not the end of the world! You will still be able to get CM7 for your phone!

[Guest Victor von Zeppelin]

I think the first thing people need to do is stop thinking about Gen1 this and Gen2 that. The important thing is that CyanogenMod7 will continue to be developed for the blade, bugs will be fixed and issues will be resolved.

It just so happens that in the near future if you want to use an official CM7 build you will have to have a Gen2 phone.

This means that if you have a Gen1 phone you can...

1) update your phone to a Gen2 phone, as per the sticky in this very forum

2) Recompile the CM7 kernel source with the memory map changes and RIL libraries to support a Gen1 phone

3) Use someone else's compiled binaries from 2)

If you choose option 1 then you carry on as normal using the official releases. great!

If you choose option 2 or 3, then you will not be able to report bugs and issues directly to the CM team, but you will still get the bug fixes everyone else gets. great!

I can understand the concern over not wanting to update your phone, for whatever reason, but it is not the end of the world! You will still be able to get CM7 for your phone!

True dat :)

But it does raise a good point. We're all going to have to transfer over if we want CM7, and it's not the end of the world. And of course, if you NEED 2.2....there's still SS. Which I've heard is the best Froyo rom so far, yes?

Another question, which has been asked a multitude of times (probably) but I haven't seen responses (probably) is if the new RIL libs are an improvement over the very beta ones that are used in Gen1 CM7? Any better battery life or stuff?

And finally...it's only taken 3 days for people to notice the title :)