Android 3.0 for the Advent Vega

[Guest mintvilla]

I wonder how many people have actually returned a product UNOPENED and in it's original packaging because they genuinely changed there mind! :)

people with unwanted presents, bring it back. These days most people research on the internet products there going to buy to make informed desicions. However, some people impulse buy, then get a load of s*** when they get homefrom the misses for wasting money on gadgets, and thus bring them back.

Edited April 26, 2011 by mintvilla

[Guest thehowler]

Not that its unstable, people are comparing the vega to "their wifes ipad" who gets way longer battery, its people why buy the cheapest tablet available, then all they do is moan, kos it wasnt as good as what they thought it might be.

Surely there's a difference between "not as good as they thought it might be" and not doing what it says on the tin. I thought this device was supposed to have, like 16 hours of battery life on video playback or something?

[Guest thehowler]

Surely there's a difference between "not as good as they thought it might be" and not doing what it says on the tin. I thought this device was supposed to have, like 16 hours of battery life on video playback or something?

Sorry - just read 6.5 hours on 1080p playback.

[Guest peter a]

Not that its unstable, people are comparing the vega to "their wifes ipad" who gets way longer battery, its people why buy the cheapest tablet available, then all they do is moan, kos it wasnt as good as what they thought it might be.

o.k , I`ve solved it for the people who say battery life is there main problem , and that`s why they want a ifad.

Answer , You can get 2 vegas for the price of 1 ifad .

I`ve sure 2 vegas will last longer than a ifad , that will fix the problem !!!!

Edited April 26, 2011 by peter a

[Guest mintvilla]

Surely there's a difference between "not as good as they thought it might be" and not doing what it says on the tin. I thought this device was supposed to have, like 16 hours of battery life on video playback or something?

then i suggest reading the tin again, it clearly says. on the stock rom, that it gives 6.5 hours of video play back(which it does) and 16 hours of music playback with the screen off (which i might do, ive never tried it)

The trouble is, no one wants to be on the stock rom, they want the android market, which isnt on the tin, so they use custom roms, then complain that there not perfect, hence why some guy compiled it, in his own time, compared to paid engineers at a company who sells the product, like which rom do you think is going to be better?

[Guest mintvilla]

o.k , I`ve solved it for the people who say battery life is there main problem , and that`s why they want a ifad.

Answer , You can get 2 vegas for the price of 1 ifad .

I`ve sure 2 vegas will last longer than a ifad , that will fix the problem !!!!

*an ifad

[Guest thehowler]

then i suggest reading the tin again, it clearly says. on the stock rom, that it gives 6.5 hours of video play back(which it does) and 16 hours of music playback with the screen off (which i might do, ive never tried it)

The trouble is, no one wants to be on the stock rom, they want the android market, which isnt on the tin, so they use custom roms, then complain that there not perfect, hence why some guy compiled it, in his own time, compared to paid engineers at a company who sells the product, like which rom do you think is going to be better?

Yeah - you make a good point. It does make you wonder why anyone would buy it without the Market available as stock...

[Guest mintvilla]

Sorry - just read 6.5 hours on 1080p playback.

lol i see you reread the tin

[Guest warriorscot]

Just took 28 days from the first post and its what I remember reading in the PCworld website as their policy. The store policy and the law can be two very different things for example you get a years warranty but under law you have 6 years of warranty based on manufacturer defects and you have a legal grace period to return even opened items that a store wont tell you about but I can't remember the exact period but the thing about only unopened items is corporate BS the law allows you to open them and still return them otherwise how are you supposed to know if an item is defective or unsuitable.

The vega is cheap, but its cheap and reliable there are times when it shows but mostly its a pretty sound device. Also custom roms don't effect your warranty as DSG have made a statement to that effect and have close ties with the site. How else did you think we got the prizes for the competition. If you mod the hardware dsg will consider that a void warranty but they are supporting the hardware not the software.

PS According to advent the R8 is better. But they are all based on stock rom anyway nothing is in the custom roms that aren't in other android stock code for other devices its all pretty standard stuff the stock rom is just very basic for the vega.

Edited April 26, 2011 by warriorscot

[Guest peter a]

i was replying to warrior scott, hence the quote and he clearly says 28days.

i suggest you try reading it again.

Sorry mintvilla , it was for who started the thread off .

then i suggest reading the tin again

What tin ?, I`m going back to pc world and demanding my tin.

Edited April 26, 2011 by peter a

[Guest mintvilla]

Surely there's a difference between "not as good as they thought it might be" and not doing what it says on the tin. I thought this device was supposed to have, like 16 hours of battery life on video playback or something?

the tin from this quote was what i was reffering to lol

Edited April 26, 2011 by mintvilla

[Guest mintvilla]

Just took 28 days from the first post and its what I remember reading in the PCworld website as their policy. The store policy and the law can be two very different things for example you get a years warranty but under law you have 6 years of warranty based on manufacturer defects and you have a legal grace period to return even opened items that a store wont tell you about but I can't remember the exact period but the thing about only unopened items is corporate BS the law allows you to open them and still return them otherwise how are you supposed to know if an item is defective or unsuitable.

The vega is cheap, but its cheap and reliable there are times when it shows but mostly its a pretty sound device. Also custom roms don't effect your warranty as DSG have made a statement to that effect and have close ties with the site. How else did you think we got the prizes for the competition. If you mod the hardware dsg will consider that a void warranty but they are supporting the hardware not the software.

PS According to advent the R8 is better. But they are all based on stock rom anyway nothing is in the custom roms that aren't in other android stock code for other devices its all pretty standard stuff the stock rom is just very basic for the vega.

actually your wrong. You can go on belieiving that all the companies in the country, act on their own law, and not the law of the land.

The law actually says once money has passed, you have 28 days to return the item in resellable condition ( so yeah you cant open it would you buy somthing that has been already opened? yeah i dont think so), with proof of purchase, for either an exchange, or for store credit (no cash refund)

And that you have 12 months for a manufactures fault. Now that doesnt mean if it breaks, or wear and tear, or if you think battery isnt as good as it might be. None of these things are manufacturing faults.

but yeah go on beleiving that its just corperate bs

[Guest Stevonator]

Sorry guys I accidently posted something when I didnt want to so please ignore this !!!

Edited April 26, 2011 by Stevonator

[Guest Vansphone]

Not that its unstable, people are comparing the vega to "their wifes ipad" who gets way longer battery, its people why buy the cheapest tablet available, then all they do is moan, kos it wasnt as good as what they thought it might be.

"all they do is moan, kos it wasnt as good as what they thought it might be"

I wasn't moaning, I was answering a question, there is a big difference. The ipad has a longer battery life. That is a statement of fact, not a moan.

Before I bought the Vega I did my research (mainly reading this site) so "it wasnt as good as what they thought it might be" is also wrong. It was exactly what I expected it to be. Since Corvus5 it is better than I expected it to be.

And to state the obvious, I gave my wife my ipad and kept the Vega. That should tell you which one I prefer to use day to day.

[Guest Vansphone]

Check this again ,my vega at 1.4 ghz is lasting from 11 o'clock fully charged to 2 o'clock and its at 52% this is with wifi on in standby, general browsing, some acceloremeter games and also a few levels on angry birds.

That sounds like it compares to what I am getting. You used if for three hours and the battery went down by 50%. Yesterday my Vega went down by about 80% over 15 hours, most of which was on standby. But there was perhaps 3 hours use in that time and I took it off standby lots of times to check and send emails. So about 50% drop from the three hours use plus another 30% over 12 hours of standby etc sounds plausible (if not scientific)

[Guest warriorscot]

50% for three hours Is a little steep I'm only using 20 to 30% for the same. Has anyone noticed that removing phone components actually reduces battery life I have noticed with Corvus 5 and cm7 if it doesn't have phonecomponents the battery drain is actually higher. Its hard to judge because everyone uses different apps that can drain battery.

[Guest Vansphone]

50% for three hours Is a little steep I'm only using 20 to 30% for the same. Has anyone noticed that removing phone components actually reduces battery life I have noticed with Corvus 5 and cm7 if it doesn't have phonecomponents the battery drain is actually higher. Its hard to judge because everyone uses different apps that can drain battery.

Yes, I think the way a user sets up the Vega must have an influence on battery life.

Personally, most of the time, I am not worried about battery life. So I have my screen nice and bright and it stays on for a reasonable amount of time before it goes to standby. I have a couple of widgets working and WiFi is activated.

I accept that every night I will charge it overnight, so providing it gets through the day it does not matter to me if there is still 17% battery level or 30%. Also, I have never tested the battery meter, so I don't know if it is accurate.

If battery life was an issue I assume I could modify the setup and probability get longer life.

[Guest Qwertymon]

This morning i was furious with PC Wold as they refused to let me return my Vega as it was beyond their 28 day returns policy. I am a bit disappointed with the Vega because even after installing the latest ROM it now crashes at least once everyday and the batteries doesn't last long (as claimed on the websites) even if the screen brightnes is toned down and when it does the screen is very difficult to view.

My question is:

1. is there a new ROM being cooked now to address such issues and to make it even more stable?

2. are we gonna see a 3.0 update to the Vega anytime soon?

I hope it is. As my patience is running thin.....

If you can prove the fault to them, they can exchange it on the spot, even with the fault if they can comfirm it and offer a repair ask them to contact the storebranch line and ask what code the product is (its code5) after comfirming this they should just swap it out for a new one for you on the spot.

As a note I get 6 to 9 hours out of my vega depending what I am doing.

[Guest tony barnes]

My battery life seems to vary drastically day to day!

That said, was streaming TV in bed last night, went from 79% to 52% in about 2hrs, which was fine by me. Then got up this morning, and it had dropped to about 34% (in ~6hrs) - which is less good IMO. I've got phone stuff off, r8 installed.

In honesty, I just charge it most days, not that much hassle, and the battery life is a country mile better than any laptop I've ever had

[Guest phil-t]

My battery life seems to vary drastically day to day!

That said, was streaming TV in bed last night, went from 79% to 52% in about 2hrs, which was fine by me. Then got up this morning, and it had dropped to about 34% (in ~6hrs) - which is less good IMO. I've got phone stuff off, r8 installed.

In honesty, I just charge it most days, not that much hassle, and the battery life is a country mile better than any laptop I've ever had

A few of us where discussing this in the Corvus5 ROM Thread, and are trying different things to see if we can improve the situation. Might be worth keeping an eye in the thread, disabling WiFi whilst in standby is something we are trying different methods of doing etc, but it'll take a few attempts of trial/error to see what if anything might improve matters, the WiFi is one obvious thing, having that running all the time will eat the battery at a higher rate, the early ROMS seemed better in this manner, they famously didn't have the WiFi enabled in standby and certainly IME seemed to be very frugal in standby..

[Guest peter a]

I think we have all jumped the shark from the original thread and this as become a battery life thread.

I did a couple of tests last night by playing a 2 hour movie from fully charged and checking the level of battery state after.

54 % , Clocked cpu with wifi on , default 35% backlighty all tests

58 % , Clocked cpu with wifi off

58 % , Default cpu with wifi on.

( 2% per hour for the wifi on or have it over clocked )

Which give just over 4 hour of battery life playing hi-def movie .

Not the 6 hour plus of the stock rom , but like someone righty said , who wants the stock rom.

I know that most people who purchased a vega will know all about been able to put a better rom on it , or the first thing they do when they get home and find no market place on it and search the net and come here.

[Guest pm99]

This morning i was furious with PC Wold as they refused to let me return my Vega as it was beyond their 28 day returns policy. I am a bit disappointed with the Vega because even after installing the latest ROM it now crashes at least once everyday and the batteries doesn't last long (as claimed on the websites) even if the screen brightnes is toned down and when it does the screen is very difficult to view.

My question is:

1. is there a new ROM being cooked now to address such issues and to make it even more stable?

2. are we gonna see a 3.0 update to the Vega anytime soon?

I hope it is. As my patience is running thin.....

There is another very good thread on Honeycomb/3.0 on this site, which offers some hope, if the source code is released, or a port done.

Does anyone else have an issue, though about the fact that the 3.0 tablets being sold in the States, such as the Asus Transformer ($400) and Acer Iconia ($450), even allowing for Sales Tax on top, seem much higher in price, when sold in the UK? For example, the Acer is £479? Does this explain the reluctance to release Honeycomb to such as the Vega, even if only for the UK?

Here's hoping that the others are right and we can get access to Honeycomb, in the end. Meantime, the Vega is still a terrific machine, as amply demonstrated by the demand and interest.

[Guest damuffinman]

Does anyone else have an issue, though about the fact that the 3.0 tablets being sold in the States, such as the Asus Transformer ($400) and Acer Iconia ($450), even allowing for Sales Tax on top, seem much higher in price, when sold in the UK? For example, the Acer is £479? Does this explain the reluctance to release Honeycomb to such as the Vega, even if only for the UK?

Don't tell me you've just noticed this. We've always been shafted with electronics over the years...

[Guest Soulcalibur76]

I have made up my mind to sell my Vega today. I have had enough of its "misgivings" and investing in a much better tablet like the iPad 2 would be pratical.

Even 3.0 can't change my mind now. Till Android gets its act together ill stay away from them....

[Guest danb79]

I have made up my mind to sell my Vega today. I have had enough of its "misgivings" and investing in a much better tablet like the iPad 2 would be pratical.

Even 3.0 can't change my mind now. Till Android gets its act together ill stay away from them....

good luck with the ifad i personaly cant do without flash and i like to tinker, with the vega it doesnot void the warenty the ipad it does. Good luck!!