Guest Azurren Posted June 13, 2011 Report Share Posted June 13, 2011 Can we use a female to female USB converter and then connect the USB peripheral on the other end ? Yes but you would also need to modify the dell cable to "trick" the device into going into host mode Apparently the DealExtreme cables are missing pins.. Not sure if they have the correct pins to enter host mode :S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mrmrmrmr Posted June 13, 2011 Report Share Posted June 13, 2011 I've assembled the cable checking these pages: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PDMI http://www.accesscomms.com.au/reference/usb.htm my connector did not have the 4th pin. so I removed pin 30 and inserted it in 4th place. now, when I plug a usb memory it receives power. (I am still at 1.9.0) I will update to 1.9.1 beta 6 but I am not sure if I should use the following install option or not: usbdisk - enables auto mounting of usb drives using host mode - also mounts ntfs drives but breaks usb to pc mounting of streaks sd card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Azurren Posted June 13, 2011 Report Share Posted June 13, 2011 I've assembled the cable checking these pages: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PDMI http://www.accesscomms.com.au/reference/usb.htm my connector did not have the 4th pin. so I removed pin 30 and inserted it in 4th place. now, when I plug a usb memory it receives power. (I am still at 1.9.0) I will update to 1.9.1 beta 6 but I am not sure if I should use the following install option or not: usbdisk - enables auto mounting of usb drives using host mode - also mounts ntfs drives but breaks usb to pc mounting of streaks sd card. As I understand that line it should be enabled for USB host to work. But if you mount an NTFS usb device it will stop you from being able to connect your streaks SD card, via USB, until reboot? Take it with a grain of salt. It won't permanently break anything anyway ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mrmrmrmr Posted June 13, 2011 Report Share Posted June 13, 2011 I asked Steve and he told me that I didn't need that usbdisk option. That's for auto-mounting. But when it is enabled you lose the chance of mounting SD card to PC. Instead of auto-mounting I used a Gscript to mount USB drives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mrmrmrmr Posted June 14, 2011 Report Share Posted June 14, 2011 Steve, Isaw your message on Twitter about modified usb host cables. I'd love to help you but I order straight Streak cables from China and it takes around 3 weeks to receive them. But if you like I can give you the URL for product on Ebay. After you receive it, modification is very easy; I can give instructions if you go that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Azurren Posted June 14, 2011 Report Share Posted June 14, 2011 Steve, Isaw your message on Twitter about modified usb host cables. I'd love to help you but I order straight Streak cables from China and it takes around 3 weeks to receive them. But if you like I can give you the URL for product on Ebay. After you receive it, modification is very easy; I can give instructions if you go that way. Does the mod work on these cables (Missing pins?) Would love a link to a cheap, compatible cable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mrmrmrmr Posted June 15, 2011 Report Share Posted June 15, 2011 my cable had the 4th pin missing. but all other 29 pins were available. So I removed the 30th pin and inserted it into the 4th pin slot. It worked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mrmrmrmr Posted June 16, 2011 Report Share Posted June 16, 2011 Steve, is there any possibility of a NTFS write enabled rom ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stephen Hyde Posted June 16, 2011 Report Share Posted June 16, 2011 you'll be able to write to ntfs if you do a manual mount route Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mrmrmrmr Posted June 16, 2011 Report Share Posted June 16, 2011 what do you mean by "manual mount route" ? I am mounting manually withthe mount command. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stephen Hyde Posted June 16, 2011 Report Share Posted June 16, 2011 yep thats the way i mean it should mount rw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mrmrmrmr Posted June 16, 2011 Report Share Posted June 16, 2011 actually it does not mount rw. should I specially declare that I want to mount rw ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stephen Hyde Posted June 16, 2011 Report Share Posted June 16, 2011 yep ;) kernel has write support but im not responsible if it causes data loss etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mrmrmrmr Posted June 16, 2011 Report Share Posted June 16, 2011 ok; I have a problem then. I mount with option "-o rw" and I can see it mounted rw with mount command. but I can't write any data to the folder. I tried renaming a file, creating a new folder. root explorer says it is done but result is not done. any idea ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stephen Hyde Posted June 16, 2011 Report Share Posted June 16, 2011 check dmesg see if any logs show Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mrmrmrmr Posted June 17, 2011 Report Share Posted June 17, 2011 check dmesg see if any logs show nothing interesting in the dmesg output. when I try to create directory in shell (busybox), it says "operation not permitted" but the mount output shows rw option. have you tried with any ntfs volume ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mrmrmrmr Posted June 20, 2011 Report Share Posted June 20, 2011 I've tried with another ntfs formatted usb disk. same result. btw, one of the usb memories was 32gb, the other is 16gb. should I try with a smaller usb memory ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mrmrmrmr Posted June 26, 2011 Report Share Posted June 26, 2011 (edited) hi Steve, do you have any news or comments about this ? Edited June 26, 2011 by mrmrmrmr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest undrwater Posted July 27, 2011 Report Share Posted July 27, 2011 I've assembled the cable checking these pages: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PDMI http://www.accesscom...ference/usb.htm my connector did not have the 4th pin. so I removed pin 30 and inserted it in 4th place. now, when I plug a usb memory it receives power. (I am still at 1.9.0) I will update to 1.9.1 beta 6 but I am not sure if I should use the following install option or not: usbdisk - enables auto mounting of usb drives using host mode - also mounts ntfs drives but breaks usb to pc mounting of streaks sd card. I've picked up a cheap chinese cable as well for this purpose. When you report yours did not have the 4th pin, are you saying it wasn't there to solder to the 2nd? ie: just plastic there? Or looking into the slot you didn't see it? Have you had any success with using host? @megazig: have you compiled that ftdi module? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dragon7 Posted July 28, 2011 Report Share Posted July 28, 2011 I asked Steve and he told me that I didn't need that usbdisk option. That's for auto-mounting. But when it is enabled you lose the chance of mounting SD card to PC. Instead of auto-mounting I used a Gscript to mount USB drives. .... when I try to create directory in shell (busybox), it says "operation not permitted" but the mount output shows rw option. So what's the route for manual mounting of USB drives? What should I write in Gscript file, or in Busybox, to mount a USB drive? And what if I want to host a usb keyboard, or other devices? Best regards, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mrmrmrmr Posted July 28, 2011 Report Share Posted July 28, 2011 I've picked up a cheap chinese cable as well for this purpose. When you report yours did not have the 4th pin, are you saying it wasn't there to solder to the 2nd? ie: just plastic there? Or looking into the slot you didn't see it? Have you had any success with using host? @megazig: have you compiled that ftdi module? Mine didn't have the 4th pin there. Only plastic. So I removed one of the unused pins and inserted it to 4th plastic slot. It works great. No problems except that I can't write to NTFS partitions. I am still waiting for Steve's comment on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mrmrmrmr Posted July 28, 2011 Report Share Posted July 28, 2011 So what's the route for manual mounting of USB drives? What should I write in Gscript file, or in Busybox, to mount a USB drive? And what if I want to host a usb keyboard, or other devices? Best regards, Just plug the usb keyboard , it runs well. For USB drives you have to mount by a standard linux mount command: mount /device/name /mount/point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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