Very Urgent - TMN Sapo A5 - Doesn't work

[Guest Mettafox]

A custom rom shouldn't affect your warranty against hardware failures.

wbaw, what exactly is firmware?

The firmware is the ROM?

If I change the ROM to the Stock ROM, the firmware will back to the original firmware?

[Guest t0mm13b]

The firmware is not "the ROM".

The ROM is a android environment with particular version of it, such as Eclair, Froyo, Gingerbread.

Changing the ROM back to the Stock ROM (remember, the original ROM that came with the handset when you first bought it and powered on for the first time), the shop assistant would not know!

Firmware is a piece of code integrated into the chipset at a much lower level than the ROM, that firmware is responsible for interacting with the network provider's protocols in interacting with other handset users, initiating calls, sending sms etc.

ROM is a misnomer of a naming definition, not really a ROM per se, think of it this way, from the PC viewpoint, BIOS is the hardware controller for all hardware and interactions, Operating System can be Linux, Windows etc. So it might help you to think of "ROM" as a operating system for the handset, with different versions, think of Windows, XP, Vista, Win7, in the case of and in the viewpoint of Android, there's Eclair, Froyo, Donut, Cupcake, Gingerbread.... (thanks darling for the clarification)

ROM != firmware. :)

Edited July 15, 2011 by t0mm13b

[Guest Mettafox]

The firmware is not "the ROM".

The ROM is a android environment with particular version of it, such as Eclair, Froyo, Gingerbread.

Changing the ROM back to the Stock ROM (remember, the original ROM that came with the handset when you first bought it and powered on for the first time), the shop assistant would not know!

Firmware is a piece of code integrated into the chipset at a much lower level than the ROM, that firmware is responsible for interacting with the network provider's protocols in interacting with other handset users, initiating calls, sending sms etc.

ROM is a misnomer of a naming definition, not really a ROM per se, think of it this way, from the PC viewpoint, BIOS is the hardware controller for all hardware and interactions, Operating System can be Linux, Windows etc. So it might help you to think of "ROM" as a operating system for the handset, with different versions, think of Windows, XP, Vista, Win7, in the case of and in the viewpoint of Android, there's Eclair, Froyo, Donut, Cupcake, Gingerbread.... (thanks darling for the clarification)

ROM != firmware. :)

In this case, I need to do all the process again, but with the original firmware?

My device is the Sapo A5 (portuguese ZTE Blade derivative).

In this topic: http://android.modac...mware-packages/

I have the stock firmware of my device:

Portugal

Sapo Froyo firmware

Firmware package with stock ROM (md5: 39799c4f155826e7ffb959db085d12b7).

Firmware package with no ROM (md5: fd60bc76881b18252b40d911a6603046).

Original file location: see this thread.

So, to return to original firmware, I need to do the whole process in this topic again, right??

http://android.modac...ng-a-zte-blade/

But with the firmware of the Sapo A5, right?

With this:

Portugal

Sapo Froyo firmware

Firmware package with stock ROM (md5: 39799c4f155826e7ffb959db085d12b7).

Firmware package with no ROM (md5: fd60bc76881b18252b40d911a6603046).

Original file location: see this thread.

If yes, which one? With Stock ROM or With No ROM?

I want put in the device the original firmware of the device.

Edited July 15, 2011 by Mettafox

[Guest t0mm13b]

In this case, I need to do all the process again, but with the original firmware?

My device is the Sapo A5 (portuguese ZTE Blade derivative).

In this topic: http://android.modac...mware-packages/

I have the stock firmware of my device:

Portugal

Sapo Froyo firmware

Firmware package with stock ROM (md5: 39799c4f155826e7ffb959db085d12b7).

Firmware package with no ROM (md5: fd60bc76881b18252b40d911a6603046).

Original file location: see this thread.

So, to return to original firmware, I need to do the whole process in this topic again, right??

http://android.modac...ng-a-zte-blade/

But with the firmware of the Sapo A5, right?

With this:

Portugal

Sapo Froyo firmware

Firmware package with stock ROM (md5: 39799c4f155826e7ffb959db085d12b7).

Firmware package with no ROM (md5: fd60bc76881b18252b40d911a6603046).

Original file location: see this thread.

If yes, which one? With Stock ROM or With No ROM?

I want put in the device the original firmware of the device.

HOLD IT THERE! B)

Firmware != ROM, stop confusing the terminology!

Think about it, no "ROM" equals no operating system so it does not make sense in what you're saying....

Install the stock operating system and you be okie :) (READ: the stock operating system, otherwise known as the original software that was on it when you first bought the handset and powered it on for the first time)

You are not going to lose the IMEI - the only guaranteed way of doing that is to remove the firmware completely (READ not a "ROM"!) by using a tool to destroy the hidden partition where it resides in. It is inaccessible from the viewpoint of Android environment, well, not totally inaccessible but am explaining in layman terms for you.

Anyway, why the panic? :huh:

Translation for you courtesy of google translate:

Guardare-o lá! B)

Firmware! = ROM, pare de confundir a terminologia!

Pense nisso, não "ROM" é igual a nenhum sistema operacional para que ele não fazem sentido em que você está dizendo

Instalar o sistema operacional de ações e você ser okie :) (LER: o sistema operacional de ações, também conhecido como o software original que estava sobre ele quando você comprou o aparelho e alimentado-o pela primeira vez)

Você não vai perder o IMEI - a única maneira garantida de fazer isso é remover completamente o firmware (LER não é uma "ROM"!) Usando uma ferramenta para destruir a partição oculta onde ele reside no. Não é acessível a partir do ponto de vista do ambiente Android, não, totalmente inacessíveis, mas estou explicando em termos leigos para você.

De qualquer forma, por que o pânico?

Edited July 16, 2011 by t0mm13b

[Guest Mettafox]

HOLD IT THERE! B)

Firmware != ROM, stop confusing the terminology!

Think about it, no "ROM" equals no operating system so it does not make sense in what you're saying....

Install the stock rom and you be okie :)

Anyway, why the panic? :huh:

I am in panic because in the process to recover my IMEI, I used this firmware: blade_custom_gen2_firmware_v7 from here:

And I do not know if this firmware I used can affect the warranty.

If I install the Stock ROM, the original firmware back?

[Guest t0mm13b]

I am in panic because in the process to recover my IMEI, I used this firmware: blade_custom_gen2_firmware_v7 from here:

And I do not know if this firmware I used can affect the warranty.

If I install the Stock ROM, the original firmware back?

Okie: why recover the IMEI? That is the bit I do not understand. Lets back up a bit from start again.

What is running on your handset right now as of this moment?

Are you booting into CM7 right now?

(If you are, and your handset recognizes your sim card, then you have not lost your IMEI)

More details? :)

[Guest t0mm13b]

On second thoughts....

Answer those for me please - because I think I understand....

The TPT method is designated for the Blade handset, you are talking about a Sapo A5 which is a different handset altogether... :mellow:

Are you 100% positive that your handset is gen1? (Can you actually verify this?)

Why come on to this forum and post "Urgent" knowing that 1) this is a blade forum and that 2) you flashed a blade gen2 firmware onto the Sapo A5? :o

Which comes back to this, why did you do it? :blink: :unsure:

[Guest Mettafox]

Okie: why recover the IMEI? That is the bit I do not understand. Lets back up a bit from start again.

What is running on your handset right now as of this moment?

Are you booting into CM7 right now?

(If you are, and your handset recognizes your sim card, then you have not lost your IMEI)

More details? :)

I lost my IMEI with this process: http://android.modac...-also-the-imei/

As I did not understand almost nothing of this guide, I lost my original IMEI.

Once lost the IMEI, I had to restore the original IMEI.

To retrieve the IMEI (channel1.nvm), I used this guide: http://android.modac...ng-a-zte-blade/

But to do the step to retrieve the IMEI, I needed a Flash Firmware and I used this firmware: blade_custom_gen2_firmware_v7 from here: http://android.modac...ded-gen2-blade/

I am use now this ROM: Ginger Stir Fry Beta13

But like I said, I used a different firmware from the original firmware of my device.

What now?

With this firmware I used, even if I install the Stock ROM, exists problems with the device warranty because of the firmware?

Note:

My device recognizes the network of the SIM card, appears in the notifications box: P TMN

Edited July 16, 2011 by Mettafox

[Guest wbaw]

On second thoughts....

Answer those for me please - because I think I understand....

You don't.

The TPT method is designated for the Blade handset, you are talking about a Sapo A5 which is a different handset altogether... :mellow:

No, it's exactly the same.

Are you 100% positive that your handset is gen1? (Can you actually verify this?)

It's gen2.

Why come on to this forum and post "Urgent" knowing that 1) this is a blade forum and that 2) you flashed a blade gen2 firmware onto the Sapo A5? :o

Because this is the right place for it.

Which comes back to this, why did you do it? :blink: :unsure:

He didn't realise it wasn't going to work...

You have it all back to front. He originally had a Gen1 phone, then he updated to Gen2, then he restored his Gen1 nandroid backup to his Gen2 phone. Installing Gen1 roms to a Gen2 phone isn't going to work. It couldn't boot the rom or recovery, because they were both gen1 & his phone is gen2, so his phone would be stuck in fastboot mode (that's what happens when both boot & recovery aren't bootable).

All he needed to do was listen to me & use fastboot to flash a Gen2 version of ClockworkMod & then use that ClockworkMod to install a Gen2 rom.

Instead he followed some other guide & lost his IMEI.

Edited July 16, 2011 by wbaw

[Guest t0mm13b]

I lost my IMEI with this process:

As I did not understand almost nothing of this guide, I lost my original IMEI.

Once lost the IMEI, I had to restore the original IMEI.

To retrieve the IMEI (channel1.nvm), I used this guide:

But to do the step to retrieve the IMEI, I needed a Flash Firmware and I used this firmware: blade_custom_gen2_firmware_v7 from here:

I am use now this ROM: Ginger Stir Fry Beta13

But like I said, I used a different firmware from the original firmware of my device.

What now?

With this firmware I used, even if I install the Stock ROM, exists problems with the device warranty because of the firmware?

The device warranty should not even come in at all (I would think so - this is an iffy one here)

You still have not answered:

Can you confirm you were on Gen1 prior to all of the process?

Even better, you still have not answered:

Why did you do it?

Since you stated you are running Ginger Stir Fry, you can still receive/make calls yes or no? Then in that case you have not lost your IMEI! End of story on that. Forget about the IMEI, your system is working.

Why would you want to revert back to original software anyway - Did the handset break and needs to be returned back due to hardware fault or something?

[Guest Mettafox]

The device warranty should not even come in at all (I would think so - this is an iffy one here)

You still have not answered:

Can you confirm you were on Gen1 prior to all of the process?

Even better, you still have not answered:

Why did you do it?

Since you stated you are running Ginger Stir Fry, you can still receive/make calls yes or no? Then in that case you have not lost your IMEI! End of story on that. Forget about the IMEI, your system is working.

Why would you want to revert back to original software anyway - Did the handset break and needs to be returned back due to hardware fault or something?

I guess I don't have problems in the hardware, at least, for now, is working fine.

Before all of this, my device was already in Gen2.

I have upgraded from Gen1 (2.1) to Gen2 (2.2) by upgrade system from my operator.

I did this whole process, by mistake, I tried to install a Gen1 ROM in a device with Gen2, and gave big problems.

However, I came here to try solve my problem, and the user k0zmic gave me a guide, which I did not understand almost anything and resulted in losing my IMEI.

Then, try to get more help, I visited a portuguese forum (AndroidPT) and saw a topic of someone who had a similar problem, and someone said to use the Fastboot.

As the problem was similar to mine, I followed the tip, and I used the fastboot, and the ROM problem was solved.

But as I had done the first guide (), which resulted in the loss of my IMEI, I had to come back here and try to solve this problem.

Then I was given another guide, this guide that required a firmware so I could send the Channel1.nvm back to my phone with the original IMEI.

In this moment the IMEI problem, is solved.

What worries me now, is that I am using a firmware that is not the original firmware of the device.

The ROM I know, is not the original.

Making calls, I do not know, I do not have money to do calls.

But if I try do calls, the operator says that I do not have money to do calls, what is true (I have 0€).

I can send and receive Kolmis (is the service to request to call me), I do not know what name this is calling in your country and I can receive calls.

As I am very layman, I followed all the guides that was shown to me, all of you understand a lot more this stuff than me.

[Guest hedgepigdaniel]

@mettaFox

I understand that the last firmware you flashed was custom Gen2 v7.

If you want to return to stock, you should flash the Sapo A5 firmware with stock ROM from from here as you suggested. Your phone will appear completely unmodified. Firmware, ROM, everything. That is now the easiest way to return your phone completely to stock.

If you don't need to return to stock then you can proceed to flash any custom Gen2 ROM you like.

Flashing that would not have fixed your IMEI problem (which I understand you have now fixed), which is probably why no-one recommended it to you originally.

@wbaw:

I said it before, but after mettaFox ran the Sapo A5 updater in the OP and flashed an incompatible ROM and recovery image, he had no choice but to use the ZTE Flasher. Fastboot is disabled on stock Gen2 firmware like what he flashed originally. He could not have fixed it using fastboot until after he flashed your TPT firmware via windows.

@everyone

Just to clarify the conventions I've used (because they are nothing more than conventions):

ROM = android distribution

firmware = low-level software (radio firmware, bootloader, etc), not android.

I can confirm personally that the Sapo A5 and the Blade are the same for all practical purposes. I've flashed Sapo A5 firmware to my Blade without a problem.

Edited July 16, 2011 by hedgepigdaniel

[Guest Mettafox]

@mettaFox

I understand that the last firmware you flashed was custom Gen2 v7.

If you want to return to stock, you should flash the Sapo A5 firmware with stock ROM from from here as you suggested. Your phone will appear completely unmodified. Firmware, ROM, everything. That is now the easiest way to return your phone completely to stock.

If you don't need to return to stock then you can proceed to flash any custom Gen2 ROM you like.

Flashing that would not have fixed your IMEI problem (which I understand you have now fixed), which is probably why no-one recommended it to you originally.

@wbaw:

I said it before, but after mettaFox ran the Sapo A5 updater in the OP and flashed an incompatible ROM and recovery image, he had no choice but to use the ZTE Flasher. Fastboot is disabled on stock Gen2 firmware like what he flashed originally. He could not have fixed it using fastboot until after he flashed your TPT firmware via windows.

@everyone

Just to clarify the conventions I've used (because they are nothing more than conventions):

ROM = android distribution

firmware = low-level software (radio firmware, bootloader, etc), not android.

I can confirm personally that the Sapo A5 and the Blade are the same for all practical purposes. I've flashed Sapo A5 firmware to my Blade without a problem.

Do you know how to flash the firmware with the ROM?

Because in the topic exist 2 firmware to the Sapo A5, one With ROM and one With No ROM.

[Guest hedgepigdaniel]

Do you know how to flash the firmware with the ROM?

Because in the topic exist 2 firmware to the Sapo A5, one With ROM and one With No ROM.

use the one with ROM

[Guest Mettafox]

use the one with ROM

After the flashing, the ROM is automatically installed?

[Guest hedgepigdaniel]

After the flashing, the ROM is automatically installed?

they get flashed together.

[Guest Mettafox]

they get flashed together.

I assume your answer as a yes, right?

[Guest hedgepigdaniel]

I assume your answer as a yes, right?

yes.

eu falo portugues, mais eu nao acho que eu poderia falar tudo isso em portugues.

[Guest Mettafox]

yes.

eu falo portugues, mais eu nao acho que eu poderia falar tudo isso em portugues.

You could have said that you speaking portuguese.

Já podias ter dito que falavas português.

At least I had explained of the situation of better way.

But no problem.

Well, I have now the Stock Firmware and the Stock ROM with the original IMEI as well.

Pela tua forma do português, parece-me seres brasileiro.

É muito bom encontrar alguém que fale a nossa língua num fórum estrangeiro.

Muito obrigado pela ajuda.

Acho que está tudo a funcionar como deve ser. Pelo menos o processo de flashing correu bem, o restauro do IMEI também, o firmware é o mesmo.

I think everything is working as it should be.

At least the flashing process went well, the restoration of the IMEI as well, the firmware and the ROM are the original.

For now, I do not have complaints to do, all works well.

I will see in the next days, if all continue working well.

Thanks everyone for the help and the assistance.

I am very grateful.

[Guest hedgepigdaniel]

Sim, eu falo portugues do Brasil.

I'm glad its fixed