Guest KenBW2 Posted November 5, 2011 Report Posted November 5, 2011 I wonder if they intend to replace the Blade with this so that they can stop the flood of them being bought from Orange and being taken to other networks. Why else would they make essentially the same phone again? Time to get me that second Blade methinks
Guest Snaku Posted November 6, 2011 Report Posted November 6, 2011 Ok, I could get a lot of hate from this, but has anyone got anything to say the Blade isn't 262k colours? Why are people so hesitant about Blade being 262K colors? If it looks good to you in 262k colors, then 1 gazillion colors won't make it looks remotely better? If you want the answer to your question you can do some research on your own like typing *983*24474636# on your dialer or go to chipermode in ZTE Emode Helper to find out your screen part number. Known TFT Screens are by TRULY (IC:HX8369) and LEAD (IC: NT35580) or OLED Screen SAMSUNG (IC: TL2796). Just google up those parts like TRULY screen here http://www.trulydisp.../tft/index.html you can see 16.7M is listed as a feature as is the contrast ratio of 665:1 power consumption of 0.5W and brightness of 250 Nits. Another way is to view a 16M (24 bit color) image like this one http://www.lagom.nl/.../gradient-h.png If the gradient from white to black is not smooth then the screen is not 16M screen. So there you go.
Guest hecatae Posted November 6, 2011 Report Posted November 6, 2011 If it was a blade version of the optimus net and had nfc included.
Guest billybiro Posted November 6, 2011 Report Posted November 6, 2011 Where did you see ARMv7? AFAIK ARM11 = ARMv6. I am dissapoint. Would have wanted a 1GHz ARMv7 processor in this. If it is ARM11 as Mushroom_Lord says then it will be just as pointless as the Skate. I'd be happy with an 800Mhz ARMv7 though if Roph is right. And I think that 18bit colour is enough on something as small as a phone screen. The weird banding we have atm is from the roms using 16bit transparencies to improve speed. Arm11 equals armv6 according to wikipedia. May have to ditch zte What a lame upgrade, we can already run 2.3 on the current san fran this is no major improvement what so ever. I expected more atleast ARMv7 not the same old ARMv6. You know, I'm fairly convinced now that ZTE must have bought some job lot of ARMv6 CPU's about 2 years ago and they're still trying to get rid of them. Seems all they want to do is remake the Blade/SanFran over and over again, whilst barely improving the specs. at all! They probably bought them off this fella: :)
Guest targetbsp Posted November 6, 2011 Report Posted November 6, 2011 (edited) If you're getting the Blade with the Orange pAYG discount making it £85 it's still a good deal. But if you're paying the full price of £120 (inc credit) for it then it's hard to not go that bit further and get an ARMv7 based Acer Liquid Metal for £140 or Xperia Play and Huawei Titan for £170 The Blades spec and RRP was fine last year when ARMv7 phone cost hundreds of pounds but they can't keep chucking out ARMv6 phones at the same prices when ARMv7 phones are getting cheaper and cheaper. Edited November 6, 2011 by targetbsp
Guest deksman2 Posted November 6, 2011 Report Posted November 6, 2011 (edited) You know, I'm fairly convinced now that ZTE must have bought some job lot of ARMv6 CPU's about 2 years ago and they're still trying to get rid of them. Seems all they want to do is remake the Blade/SanFran over and over again, whilst barely improving the specs. at all! They probably bought them off this fella: :) If they did get a bunch of ARMv6 cpu's some time ago and are trying to get rid of them, the more efficient method would be to recycle them. And by recycle, I mean, break them down into raw matter... into base elements and reconstitute them into new matter... or shall we say, ARMv7 or v8 CPU's. The materials are probably largely the same, the density factor might be slightly different, but essentially, you'd get the new cpu's using the old ones and no risk of using new resources (or adding a negligible % of them to compensate for density differential, if there is any). Edited November 6, 2011 by deksman2
Guest Sami Beck Posted November 6, 2011 Report Posted November 6, 2011 Damn you ZTE making outdated, locked to orange handsets.
Guest unrandomsam Posted November 6, 2011 Report Posted November 6, 2011 Damn you ZTE making outdated, locked to orange handsets. How do you know Orange is not specifically asking for it to be kept to armv6 (So as not to eat into their contract profits). I think that is a fairly likely scenario. (Be just as easy for ZTE to provide the ZTE star to them).
Guest timfimjim Posted November 8, 2011 Report Posted November 8, 2011 In the description it says 'it also supports WiFi, Signal Boost' Is it possible to get wifi signal boost on the san fran? or will that be a new feature? I've been trying to read about this for ages, I can't seem to work out if it's a hardware feature or not. It would definitely be very useful for me!
Guest billybiro Posted November 9, 2011 Report Posted November 9, 2011 If they did get a bunch of ARMv6 cpu's some time ago and are trying to get rid of them, the more efficient method would be to recycle them. And by recycle, I mean, break them down into raw matter... into base elements and reconstitute them into new matter... or shall we say, ARMv7 or v8 CPU's. The materials are probably largely the same, the density factor might be slightly different, but essentially, you'd get the new cpu's using the old ones and no risk of using new resources (or adding a negligible % of them to compensate for density differential, if there is any). Um.. How much do you suppose that would cost? As opposed to just releasing the (more-or-less) same phone with a different name, and simply use the CPU's as is?
Guest Citrinas Posted November 9, 2011 Report Posted November 9, 2011 Why does everyone want an ARMv7 processor? How is it better? What are the diferences betweem ARMv6 and newer processors? Im sorry, Im absolutely green in this area, can someone please explain...
Guest Simon O Posted November 9, 2011 Report Posted November 9, 2011 Very unlikely to see a San Francisco type phone with a ARM7 CPU. Look at the various Skate versions like the US ZTE Warp that has a 1GHZ Snapdragon S2 :D
Guest HMZX Posted November 9, 2011 Report Posted November 9, 2011 Why does everyone want an ARMv7 processor? How is it better? What are the diferences betweem ARMv6 and newer processors? Im sorry, Im absolutely green in this area, can someone please explain... Mainly the ARMv7 processors are faster and support flash. Newer processors = better processors.
Guest Roph Posted November 10, 2011 Report Posted November 10, 2011 (edited) Why does everyone want an ARMv7 processor? How is it better? What are the diferences betweem ARMv6 and newer processors? Im sorry, Im absolutely green in this area, can someone please explain... Imagine buying a new computer nowadays with a Pentium 4. You just don't do it. Even the most basic new computer would (or should) have a Core2 based CPU. It's arguably more expensive to even use the P4 at this stage, but the company still insists on putting a s*** chip in there. Edited November 10, 2011 by Roph
Guest wtel Posted November 15, 2011 Report Posted November 15, 2011 It really doesn't make sense to have ARM11 Android today. It's nothing about Flash as Adobe is fading it out on mobile devices. What matters is ARM11 driven Android is barely acceptable. There will be market if the phone is super cheap (excluding me).:lol:
Guest Pierreism Posted November 15, 2011 Report Posted November 15, 2011 Has anyone got any updated info on this? All the links are dead.
Guest unrandomsam Posted November 16, 2011 Report Posted November 16, 2011 Imagine buying a new computer nowadays with a Pentium 4. You just don't do it. Even the most basic new computer would (or should) have a Core2 based CPU. It's arguably more expensive to even use the P4 at this stage, but the company still insists on putting a s*** chip in there. Allot of people using atom based stuff (And its fine for what they use them for). They don't even have out of order execution (or didn't until the very latest iteration). And there is an ICS build target for atom specifically in AOSP.
Guest Mushroom_Lord Posted November 16, 2011 Report Posted November 16, 2011 Orange have removed their help page, I guess they noticed everyone else say it and fixed it, I assume someone at orange jumped the gun. I saw on HUKD it is expected to be £99 on 21st of Nov or something? - Can't quite remember
Guest calza Posted November 17, 2011 Report Posted November 17, 2011 http://www.eurodroid.com/2011/11/17/video-orange-san-francisco-ii-confirmed-99-plus-10-credit/ Orange San Francisco Confirmed to be £99 with £10 top up. Video at the link too.
Guest cmberry20 Posted November 17, 2011 Report Posted November 17, 2011 Is this phone actually from ZTE? I cant find any mention of it anywhere.
Guest Mushroom_Lord Posted November 17, 2011 Report Posted November 17, 2011 Is this phone actually from ZTE? I cant find any mention of it anywhere. ZTE Crescent, supposedly. You are right, not much press anywhere
Guest Posted November 18, 2011 Report Posted November 18, 2011 it supports orange HD voice :) you need to use 3g of course.
Guest hecatae Posted November 20, 2011 Report Posted November 20, 2011 Baseband for it is P736. Just found it's LCD driver in the skate kernel source, going to see if this also reveals CPU information I would like to dismantle one to see if I could replace the Tft with my blade oled display
Guest hecatae Posted November 20, 2011 Report Posted November 20, 2011 is the same device coming to T-mobile as the Vivacity? http://www.very.co.uk/t-mobile-vivacity-smartphone---black/1016050404.prd?
Recommended Posts
Please sign in to comment
You will be able to leave a comment after signing in
Sign In Now