Guest Mr Orange Posted September 16, 2003 Report Share Posted September 16, 2003 This is in response to the original questions raised by Kingdom. hi mate and welcome, will orange be providing a way of updating the current 2002 system to 2003 via an update? or will the current spv and e100 users be restricted to 2002? A business decision has not been made on this yet. second question, u may or may not know this but do u think we will see the mitac mio in the uk on orange? Orange are working with a a number of manufacturers evaluating a number of new smartphone products, it would be inappropriate at this time to comment on any one manufacturer. third question, will orange start using xscale processors for there forth coming smartphones? Please see answer above ;) thanks for your time kingdom And next up: 4. What is the word on the 1.6 update? We wanted to make the 1.6 update available to customers as soon as possible. However, [and this is related to question 5], there is a new GSM stack available that is currently being integrated. This would have meant releasing the 1.6 build and very soon afterwards releasing a new build that incorporated the new radio stack. Looking at it from a customer perspective, we felt it would be better to have one release rather than two. We expect a new release to be tested by the moderators next month and a new release to be made available in Q4. 5. What is the truth about the GPRS problem being to do with the handset, rather than the network? see above response 6. How far ahead does the SPV roadmap go? I am already looking at Smartphones for 2004 and beyond :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest morpheus2702 Posted September 16, 2003 Report Share Posted September 16, 2003 Cheers for that Andy, most enlightening! Boy this is going to fire up the threads :wink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest spacecowboy6982 Posted September 16, 2003 Report Share Posted September 16, 2003 It is indeed !! Thanks for being honest and straight to the point !! SpaceCowboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pisquee Posted September 16, 2003 Report Share Posted September 16, 2003 Even though some people got frustrated at the mods for having the 1.6 update for test, I hope that the mods still tell us when they get the new version (whatever number it ends up being called) and say what it is like (good points and bad) so we know what to expect/look fwd to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ChrisJM Posted September 16, 2003 Report Share Posted September 16, 2003 Andy, Any ideas when (about) the SPV C200 or E200 will be out ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mr Orange Posted September 16, 2003 Report Share Posted September 16, 2003 Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ajb3000 Posted September 16, 2003 Report Share Posted September 16, 2003 f*cking helpfull post that last one ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest goinnuts Posted September 16, 2003 Report Share Posted September 16, 2003 the date i got of retail coms was oct 18th. but am sure andy gonna prove me wrong. completely off topic but andy what happened to the last nokia we were supposed to be relasing and the 3650. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pisquee Posted September 16, 2003 Report Share Posted September 16, 2003 I'm guessing Andy's "Yes" post, is either due to him only having an idea, and not everything being concrete yet or he is not at liberty to say, until everything is official ... As Andy is here in an offical role, he can only give us official answers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gorskar Posted September 16, 2003 Report Share Posted September 16, 2003 Thanks for thoses answers, appreciate it. Let us know when Orange decide yay or nay to a 2003 upgrade for the SPV/ SPVe100 please! BTW, it might be a good idea to sticky this post for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest GeesterD Posted September 16, 2003 Report Share Posted September 16, 2003 Wow :shock: A week to come up with answers like that :!: FANBLOODYTASTIC :evil: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest morpheus2702 Posted September 16, 2003 Report Share Posted September 16, 2003 Well, better late than never, and now we have an insight that we didn't have before... ... other than 'wait for 1.6' :wink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest drblow Posted September 16, 2003 Report Share Posted September 16, 2003 Good to see a post there Mr. O! :wink: A little bit too diplomatic - we want hard facts here!! :D In regards to the GPRS issue (I have been particularly vocal about that one! ;) ) - the suggestion in your post is that the new GSM stack will address the problem. Can you actually say whether the problem has been identified & rectified in this, or is it a 'hopefully that'll put 'em off the scent for a while...' type scenario!? Glad to hear we can expect 1.6 at some stage - although Q4 could mean december, right? :? Oh, and one last thing - this may be a sweeping generalisation, but I would guess that if our smartphones are NOT upgradeable to 2003, that would pretty much hack off EVERY user out there!? Hey - welcome to the forum!! :wink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jedi Posted September 17, 2003 Report Share Posted September 17, 2003 Hay Andy, If the first and second faze fixes to the GPRS problem failed BIG time, are you saying there is a stage 3? And is it going to fix the problem once and for all? :oops: If you are looking at the SPV development for 2004 and beyond, will there be support on the E200 for 3G video? Taking in to account that Orange are already testing Nokia 6650s on the Orange 3G network now? :?: And lastly......... Is the E200 going to have HSCSD? if so what kind of CSD speed are we looking at. Crucial for when you cant use GPRS. I'm kinda p*ssed off that I can only cannect at 9.6 even over USB to PC. :evil: Jedi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Firaas Posted September 17, 2003 Report Share Posted September 17, 2003 If you are looking at the SPV development for 2004 and beyond, will there be support on the E200 for 3G video? I assume that Andy won't be able to answer that as it's potentially commercially sensitive information... My two pence, the MS guy at the first meet (April) said that the actual software is ready, but they were waiting for a manufacturer to get going with a 3g Smartphone handset, and a network operator to adopt it. Also you have to remember the C200/E200/SPV2 don't have frontal cameras, which means it's pretty useless making videocalls from them as the caller will only be able to see your feet. BTW HSCSD is only 28.8kbps, and costs 21p+VAT a minute ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Brody Posted September 17, 2003 Report Share Posted September 17, 2003 Just to add my opinion, its great to see Mr Orange/Andy posting on here, i would suggest that we don't go too hard on him, afterall, as has been mentioned before he is here in an official capacity and is therefore not gonna leak information that he does or doesn't have that is sensitive. Some of the questions that have been asked are never going to be answered IMHO. I suppose we can only ask but i'm sure that Andy will let us know of any major news as soon as he is allowed to! ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Uzay Posted September 18, 2003 Report Share Posted September 18, 2003 excuus me, but, I did not read anything I did not know about, and i think its crap to wait with an update, let me decide if i want 1 or 2 updates or that I have to backup my ipsm or not duhhh... I want improved battery life for example, without qtek bla... I think a question like are we going to be able to update to 2003 is a normal question, hell I bought it already, I want to know ? don't be madd @ me please ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Firaas Posted September 18, 2003 Report Share Posted September 18, 2003 excuus me, but, I did not read anything I did not know about, and i think its crap to wait with an update, let me decide if i want 1 or 2 updates or that I have to backup my ipsm or not duhhh... It's fine with us advanced users saying that, but you simply can't do that with Joe Bloggs, which is why it is important to Orange to minimise the hassle of updating into a single process. Joe Bloggs cannot backup their IPSM, but they can complain that they've lost all their contacts, SMS and installed applications. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest brntcrsp Posted September 18, 2003 Report Share Posted September 18, 2003 Also you have to remember the C200/E200/SPV2 don't have frontal cameras, which means it's pretty useless making videocalls from them as the caller will only be able to see your feet. you could always stand it up in front of a mirror... ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Paul [MVP] Posted September 18, 2003 Report Share Posted September 18, 2003 There is new information uzay, did you know the release was pulled to integrate a new radio stack? Thought not. Also, the 2003 question was answered honestly by Andy, and it isn't what you wanted to hear, but it IS the current situation. Orange have to make the business decision - and to be honest if that doesn't go in our favour I will understand their reasons, but we just need to keep our fingers crossed. When was the last time you updated your Nokia or Ericsson to the new release of their OS? P Posted from my SmartPhone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest morpheus2702 Posted September 18, 2003 Report Share Posted September 18, 2003 When was the last time you updated your Nokia or Ericsson to the new release of their OS? Good point... But by the same token, when was the last time a Nokia or Ericsson had a battery life as abysmal as with the standard 1.5 update? For me, it is only the promise of an update that will rectify the problem that makes me stick with the E100. Otherwise, back to Orange it would have gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Uzay Posted September 18, 2003 Report Share Posted September 18, 2003 "]There is new information uzay, did you know the release was pulled to integrate a new radio stack? Thought not. ! yeaaah i did... developers site, I also call orange alot.... "]Also, the 2003 question was answered honestly by Andy, and it isn't what you wanted to hear, but it IS the current situation.! Yess he gave an answer, but for me as a customer the wrong one. "]When was the last time you updated your Nokia or Ericsson to the new release of their OS? Posted from my SmartPhone! well sorry, if you spend as much time on the internet as me, you would have read these items on different sites... And yeaah it is like it is, but i don't like it to be this way for starters... so i do not agree with you paul... But hey.. us techie guys F*ck them ???? sell phones to the masses???? so they have good batteries en we can buy a new one ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Paul [MVP] Posted September 18, 2003 Report Share Posted September 18, 2003 well sorry, if you spend as much time on the internet as me, you would have read these items on different sites...I'm intrigued, show me somewhere where you've read that 1.6 was delayed due a new radio stack being integrated... if you spend as much time on the internet as me, You better believe it! ;) P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Uzay Posted September 18, 2003 Report Share Posted September 18, 2003 "] I'm intrigued, show me somewhere where you've read that 1.6 was delayed due a new radio stack being integrated... You better believe it! ;) P yeaah well it not a contest Paul... just my findings.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Uzay Posted September 18, 2003 Report Share Posted September 18, 2003 "]I'm intrigued, show me somewhere where you've read that 1.6 was delayed due a new radio stack being integrated... well login to the developers site... and let me know if you can't find it.. or call orange NL and ask for the reason for delay 1.6... they tell you straight up... ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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