Guest Gorskar Posted December 2, 2003 Report Share Posted December 2, 2003 As stated before the bootloader on this build will prevent you downgrading it for http://smartphone.MoDaCo.com/viewtopic.php?t=3976>SIM Unlock. :!: So you wont be able to use USBterm to load an older bootloader version on the phone? That sucks :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neilfenstein Posted December 2, 2003 Report Share Posted December 2, 2003 You say that the upgrade will backup/restore the setup and info on the phone. Will it however leave your phone unlocked or do you have to go through the unlocking process again? Oh yeah thanks Mr. Orange V. good news!!! :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Will Posted December 2, 2003 Report Share Posted December 2, 2003 It will most likely re-application lock the phone..just like most other updates. Not sure about the simlock, this should probably remain in the same state as before you upgraded. Will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Myke Posted December 3, 2003 Report Share Posted December 3, 2003 so its gonna sim lock it and app lock it?? thats lame! youd think app locking would go the way of the e200, i-mate, ect..ect..ect.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest midnight Posted December 3, 2003 Report Share Posted December 3, 2003 that isnt possible with sp2k2, the prompt mode was only introduced for wm2k3, and like Will sai, it may not sim lock your phone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Drug_Store Posted December 3, 2003 Report Share Posted December 3, 2003 Hi @all I was just wondering if there will be more languages supported. I understand that they only should support the countrys that orange is selling, but I saw other languages on other ROM´s for countrys that they don´t even sell phones there. I think that would be a great idea, if microsoft released langpacks for at least most of european countrys. Now directly to the topic issue. I think what it matters is: - Reliability - Graphics / Ringtones still the same? Or as always, need to input some really worth it. - Battery Improvements? I hear always 20% / 30 % on all ROM updates, but in fact only add a couple of hours... - There´s some application new? or improved? besides de msn fix, of course. - Among some other stuff that really matters for the common user. Anyway, we´re all wainting for this update for "ages", but I guess we all understand that sometimes things can go wrong in the last minute, so I guess it´s understandable this delay. Thanks and sorry for my poor english... :roll: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lindsc1 Posted December 4, 2003 Report Share Posted December 4, 2003 So, with this 1.6.1 Rom upgrade, will I be able to use my O2 SIM once the upgrade is completed! My phone is currently Sim unlocked with this remain after the upgrade or will my phone return to being locked to only Orange Sim cards? Thanks Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest morpheus2702 Posted December 4, 2003 Report Share Posted December 4, 2003 I imagine the update will SIMlock the phone, but shouldn't be too hard to unlock it afterwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mwille Posted December 4, 2003 Report Share Posted December 4, 2003 So, with this 1.6.1 Rom upgrade, will I be able to use my O2 SIM once the upgrade is completed! My phone is currently http://smartphone.MoDaCo.com/viewtopic.php?t=3976>SIM Unlock with this remain after the upgrade or will my phone return to being locked to only Orange Sim cards? Thanks Chris Like Will said a bit up, it PROBABLY won't put the simlock back on. No gaurantees here untill someone has actually tried this.. :? I'm eager to know this one too.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest krankie Posted December 4, 2003 Report Share Posted December 4, 2003 If the upgrade does simlock the phone, won't we just have to stick in an alien SIM and rekey the unlock code obtained from the spvunlock utility? Or will the upgrade mean the unlock code changes too? Or does no-one know (i.e. it depends on the unknown element of how nasty Orange have been with simlocking on this upgrade)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Richie M Posted December 4, 2003 Report Share Posted December 4, 2003 I would imagine it will be as other updates, by default it will activate the SIM Lock, but as you already have your SIM Unlock code this will just need re-entering - it will only be a problem if you do not already have the Unlock code :? Unfortunately, i cant tell you for sure as 1) I didnt have the Unlock code before applying the 1.61 update, and 2) i'm on Orange anyway :roll: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Shuflie Posted December 4, 2003 Report Share Posted December 4, 2003 Which other updates from Orange have activated the SIM lock again then? In fact which other updates apart from the SMART one have activated SIM lock? None that I have tried out certainly. I'd imagine that Orange would want to avoid doing this as anyone who has applied for the SIM unlock code from them would immediatly get on the phone to them to complain, they may even have a case for calling in the lawyers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lindsc1 Posted December 5, 2003 Report Share Posted December 5, 2003 well, just incase the update does Sim lock my phone again I'm re-run the Sim Unlock utility and recorded the code in preparation for next Wednesday!! C Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gibbo Posted December 6, 2003 Report Share Posted December 6, 2003 Is there any news on what has changed in this release? I'm hoping that the following (at least) are fixed: Making calls sometimes fails The "straight to answerphone" problem GPRS "dialing" problem Also, is the power-on button any more reliable, or is that a hardware problem with the original SPV? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest morpheus2702 Posted December 6, 2003 Report Share Posted December 6, 2003 Posted from my SmartPhone! the radio stack has been updated so both call and data connectivity should be much improved. I would think though that the power on button is purely a hardware problem so not a lot can be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mattscholey Posted December 6, 2003 Report Share Posted December 6, 2003 Gibbo: The GPRS dialling problem has been fixed. Don't know about the other two problems you mention. And the power-on problem on the original SPV is a hardware problem. It's fine on the E100 (and E200 I assume). Matt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gibbo Posted December 7, 2003 Report Share Posted December 7, 2003 Cheers for the info guys, the power button problem seems to have improved recently on my SPV for some reason. Looking forward to being able to use GPRS without turning the radio off and on several times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest xanadu Posted December 7, 2003 Report Share Posted December 7, 2003 No more than 72 hours left to go for the update according to Mr. Orange :lol: :D Let's hope we get it before wednesday, as i am fed up with using my Nokia 7110 now :roll: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest morpheus2702 Posted December 7, 2003 Report Share Posted December 7, 2003 This could be like an episode of 24 "Right now Orange engineers are working on an update. My name is Jack Bauer and this is the longest (three) days of my life". Bee-DEEP Bee-DEEP Bee-DEEP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NeilStewart Posted December 8, 2003 Report Share Posted December 8, 2003 @Morpheus: 'The following events take place between mid November and 10th December... (tbc)" The only difference between this and 24 is that 24 is gripping and done well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest morpheus2702 Posted December 8, 2003 Report Share Posted December 8, 2003 @Morpheus: 'The following events take place between mid November and 10th December... (tbc)" The only difference between this and 24 is that 24 is gripping and done well. GENIUS!!! :lol: :D :) :D :D :D "Shoot him in the head!" Hope I don't feel like that on Wednesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest siu99spj Posted December 8, 2003 Report Share Posted December 8, 2003 Why do I get the horrible feeling we're all going to be disappointed on the 10th? Maybe just the pessimist in me I guess. But if this update is all its cracked up to be then I might just be tempted to keep my SPV after my upgrade date (22nd December) and wait for the MPx220. If only we had an offical/approximate release date... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ron Jeremy Posted December 8, 2003 Report Share Posted December 8, 2003 If Orange knew what day it was they may think about commiting to a release date :wink: Watch wednesday come and go, watch the SPV/E100 ROM upgrade stay unreleased...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest nedge2k Posted December 8, 2003 Report Share Posted December 8, 2003 Is there even a point in 1.61. Surley (now here's the wishful thinking) sp2003 upgrade is just around the corner. Maybe im jus living in a beautiful dreamland :wink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ron Jeremy Posted December 8, 2003 Report Share Posted December 8, 2003 have orange promised an sp2003 upgrade? I guessed they'd be forcing customers to upgrade the hardware for a 2003 device like the E200 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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