Guest awarner [MVP] Posted December 21, 2003 Report Share Posted December 21, 2003 I have made this post an announcement as there seems to be a lot of members having problems with this update. Ok a very simple process to revive your phone after it has failed on the 1.6 update. As long as you can get to the Canary screen your phone can be saved. First a check list. 1, You must have Win XP 2k or NT on your PC 2, The phones must be in the cradle on charge (sync and charge cables are ok as well) 3, The phone must be in the Canary screen Once you have met the above criteria run the 1.6 update from the canary screen and follow the instructions. It5 is this easy just take your time and do not rush :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest almark Posted December 22, 2003 Report Share Posted December 22, 2003 Sorry if this is a muppet question, but what is the Canary Screen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest awarner [MVP] Posted December 22, 2003 Report Share Posted December 22, 2003 Power off the phone, Press and hold the record button then press the power button to reboot the phone. When the phone starts to boot let go of the buttons and wait, do not press any key if promted to. You will see the three colour Canary screen (which also shows you your bootloader version) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest noobsrus Posted December 30, 2003 Report Share Posted December 30, 2003 :oops: Help - done all the above, now at "canary screen". It shows Canary MV v0.93 in different colours, and has USB in bottom left-hand corner of the screen - now what do I do (sorry for the really dumb question, but I am stuck). :oops: ActiveSync (3.6) does not recognise link (when I try to connect using a Genius 4-port hub, it shows "error" in the ActiveSync Get Connected status connection dialogue. When I put the USB cable in to the back of the computer, it shows the same :roll: Any ideas, please ??? :?: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PsychoDave Posted December 30, 2003 Report Share Posted December 30, 2003 Don't worry about activesync you don't need it for the update. Just run the update on the PC and it should be fine. :) Welcome to the site btw :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest noobsrus Posted December 30, 2003 Report Share Posted December 30, 2003 Thanks for the tips (and the warm welcome) :roll: Unfortunately, my PC (Athlon 1800+, WinXP, 512mb, GeForce3 Ti200) doesn't seem to like the USB link to the SPV (should have mentioned what sort of phone it was - oops). It was my old work phone on Orange, and I unlocked to use my O2 sim - that seemed to work OK, but when I tried to upgrade to 1.61, it fell over. Every time I try it I get the following message (no matter which USB port I put it in, back of the PC or in a 4 port hub) "The Orange SPV software update is having trouble connecting to your SPV - please check 1 That your SPV is properly connected to the USB cable or cradle (when I unplug the USB cable and plug back in again, I get the standard noise and no error message - likewise for the removing the phone from the cradle) 2 That your USB cable or cradle is properly connected to your PC (see answer to 1) 3 Power cable is connected to cradle or SPV, and is turned on (check) 4 that your SPV is turned on (got Canary screen up) I am probably doing something really stupid, but am just 2 stupid to see what - any ideas/suggestions please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest noobsrus Posted December 30, 2003 Report Share Posted December 30, 2003 only me!!! :oops: :? - I was right - user error as usual (and the wonderful world of allegedly plug and play usb ports) :? I took the usb cable out of the 4port hub, and disconnected the hub and put the cradle usb cable into the back of the PC - lo and behold, it recognised it and was able to update the software. :roll: Thanks for the help - felicitations and seasons best wotnots. :oops: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest awarner [MVP] Posted December 31, 2003 Report Share Posted December 31, 2003 Yep the phone does not like being plugged in to a hub, it's always best to connect direct to the PC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Chimpanzee Posted January 6, 2004 Report Share Posted January 6, 2004 I restarted my phone (the three colour canary screen appeared), i put it in the holder and ran the update program from my pc. The installation program started and i installed the files to my computer then a small box appeared on my screen with an Orange logo in it saying 'Checking phone data... please wait' or something like that. Then it did nothing. That box stayed on my desktop and my phone stayed on the canary screen. Whats wrong. :?: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest awarner [MVP] Posted January 6, 2004 Report Share Posted January 6, 2004 Welcome to the site :) ok 1,put the phone back in the canary screen 2,reboot your pc with the phone still connected 3,on start up disable your firewall if you use one 4,Re-run the update. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest nikjensie Posted January 6, 2004 Report Share Posted January 6, 2004 Well, when doing this it doesn't seem as if the computer can connect to the phone... It says it's chicking the phone info but nothing happens... Nik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest awarner [MVP] Posted January 7, 2004 Report Share Posted January 7, 2004 If in the canary screen the phone is showing USB the computer is seeing it. Another thing to try is to plug the phone into another USB port. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Coxswain Posted January 8, 2004 Report Share Posted January 8, 2004 I've done that many times.. I don't have a hub, and i use a miniSync cable... I haven't got a cradle. Is the only way back to put it to repair??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest awarner [MVP] Posted January 8, 2004 Report Share Posted January 8, 2004 What problems are you getting exactly? And have you tried everything in the post above? also can you say which phone you have and the OS it had running previously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gars Posted January 11, 2004 Report Share Posted January 11, 2004 Can you revive the sp on a win 98 second edition version? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gars Posted January 11, 2004 Report Share Posted January 11, 2004 Can you revive the sp on a win 98 second edition version? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest awarner [MVP] Posted January 12, 2004 Report Share Posted January 12, 2004 Some people have managed it but I would not recommend it. Only XP and 2k have stable USB support. If anything borrow a mates PC with XP etc to revive the phone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mensar Posted January 19, 2004 Report Share Posted January 19, 2004 Could someone please help me with this? I have followed all the advice previously mentioned however I'm still stuck. I tried the update and it got to 100% and then told me to remove the battery and then power up. I did this and waited ages and nothing happened. It stayed on the orange sunset screen I then decided to try to update it again to see if that worked. I put the phone onto the three colour Canary screen (this time it did not ask me to press a button to enter the canary screen), however when I connect it via usb it does not connect to the phone. i.e. there is no connection noise. I have tried 2 different pc's, both with active sync 3.7.1. I have tried connecting using a minisync cable as well with no luck. It's not connected via a hub, but directly to the pc. I'm really stuck. The canary screen says V 1.10. Any help would be most appreciated. regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest awarner [MVP] Posted January 20, 2004 Report Share Posted January 20, 2004 If you are stuck on the sunset screen I would suggest you try a hard reset. As for connecting to the PC as long as the phone shows USB in the bottom corner of the screen you should still be able to update ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sm_carlo Posted January 23, 2004 Report Share Posted January 23, 2004 hi people, this is final solutions (sorry for my english) first you conect your phone with pc usb cable, when you see canary screen and loader 1.10 you press CTRL+ALT+CANC and go in task manager and terminate proces (wcescomm.exe) second you start your preferit ROM. work good ,, all loader you can back!!!! my caind it after loader 1.10 im put inside old uk version 1.3.5uk with loader V.098 and after im put inside swiss version 1503 with loader V.99 and now work good. P.S. maybe you can put inside direct your original version but its important terminate process wcescoom.exe bye montecarlo dreams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest awarner [MVP] Posted January 23, 2004 Report Share Posted January 23, 2004 Welcome to the site :lol: maybe you can put inside direct your original version but its important terminate process   wcescoom.exe You do not have to terminate this, but it's good to know you had to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest apemonkeyman Posted February 19, 2004 Report Share Posted February 19, 2004 OK, I have rerun the ROM update & all I get is the box saying it is checking my SPV. The Canary screen is showing USB in the bottom left of the screen. I have killed the ActiveSync process. I have diabled my firewall, AV & internet connection. I have booted the phone in the cradle, out of the cradle, & the PC with the phone both in & out of the cradle. My phone is the original model SPV, my OS is Windows XP Pro. Any other ideas much appreciated before I have to send this baby off for a week or so for a warranty fix. Thanks Eddie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest awarner [MVP] Posted February 20, 2004 Report Share Posted February 20, 2004 Try a different USB port is the next thing as I think you have done everything else except run the update on another PC. In rare circumstances running the update on another, for use of a better word "clean" PC has fixed the problem and enabled to update to work correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest obingkong Posted February 25, 2004 Report Share Posted February 25, 2004 dude, i did these steps to change from Smart1.7 to orange 1.6: 1. install smart and orange to you computer( do not perform an upgrade yet on each installation). 2. copy c:program filesruu_org_uknk.nbf to c:program filesruunk.uk ( notice the file extension and location) 3. open c:program filesruunk.uk in your hex editor and replace "ORG_UK -1.61-4f97bf0" with "SMT_USA -1.70.13-350d044" (with out quotes) and then save it. 4. run the smart 1.7 upgrade from c:program filesruuSmartUpgradeUt.exe until you reach "upgrade version 1.7 to 1.7". rename c:program filesruunk.nbf to c:program filesruunk.smart. rename c:program filesruunk.uk to c:program filesruunk.nbf and then press next. this is to bypass the checksum checking for smart. continue with the upgrade as usual. 5. boot to canary mode(check other posting how to do it) 6. run the orange 1.6 upgrade from c:program filesruu_org_ukCaUpgradeUt.exe. 7. run spvunlock2 to sim unlock you sap. 8. your done. but i got stuck at step 6. when i ran the 1.6 update, it only says that it cannot read the ROM or it is corrupted and i should download again. but i did and the result is still the same. my phone does not turn on, but i can turn on to canary mode only. btw, canary version is now 1.10. what should i do? help?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest awarner [MVP] Posted February 26, 2004 Report Share Posted February 26, 2004 Don't play with hex editors as you can kill your phone if you make a mistake :) EDIT problem above sorted out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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