Guest schriss Posted June 2, 2004 Report Posted June 2, 2004 Smartphones need raw CPU and graphics power, that's my point of view :) By the way: are there any MPx220 benchmarks? Or java benchmark results at least? http://www.jbenchmark.com/ I wonder how does MPx220 compare to those 200MHz Mitacs clocked at 300MHz :lol:
Guest zeta101 Posted June 2, 2004 Report Posted June 2, 2004 what exactly is the 220s's ispm or storage as its called in 2003 compared to e100, e200 mpx100 etc? i thought the 220 had plenty of space...im confused by the past few posts
Guest schriss Posted June 2, 2004 Report Posted June 2, 2004 Lets take a look at the video closely, it shows not only program memory, but storage as well... Lets compare to my Mio 8390 which is Windows Mobile 2003: Program Memory: 27.4MB (20MB free) Storage memory: 1.1MB ISPM: 15.6MB MPx220: Program Memory: 19MB (7.5MB free) Storage memory: 2.71MB ISPM: 36.94MB (not sure, SD capacity may be included)
Guest refnulf Posted June 2, 2004 Report Posted June 2, 2004 Nothing is finalized yet. Some conflicting results about the memory, I actually thought it would be more than that.
Guest schriss Posted June 2, 2004 Report Posted June 2, 2004 Got it: MPx220 Device Storage (ISPM?) is 36.94MB, but does it include inserted SD?
Guest schriss Posted June 2, 2004 Report Posted June 2, 2004 Yeah, I also thought every new Smartphone should have more RAM, faster CPU... If MPx220 does actually have only 7MB program memory free, than it is back at E100 level. I have seen developer working on Doom port complaining "all bugs are related to small amount of free memory". http://smartphone.modaco.com/viewtopic.php...41b74511ec65803
Guest zeta101 Posted June 2, 2004 Report Posted June 2, 2004 i doubt this can be right, it must not be the final production model, moto arent going to cripple the phone like this...
Guest mavisdavis Posted June 2, 2004 Report Posted June 2, 2004 Lets all keep our fingers crossed that it's not a step back.Other wise i'm sticking to the E200.Has anybody called Orange to see if they can shed any light on the subject? Posted from my SmartPhone!
Guest someone Posted June 2, 2004 Report Posted June 2, 2004 Clip is also available in WMV, so you can search with WMP seekbar. Download here. regards, Loek
Guest akarno Posted June 2, 2004 Report Posted June 2, 2004 I just watched the video again. Where is the camera :?: :?:
Guest Horizon Posted June 2, 2004 Report Posted June 2, 2004 First of all thanks for this great movie 8) Got it: MPx220 Device Storage (ISPM?) is 36.94MB, but does it include inserted SD? I think there was no SD card in the device in the movie. You can see this at the beginning of the movie, when he tries to put a normal SD card into the slot. Do you really think that the mobile ist that thin? 20 mm would be great, but that would be 7 mm thinner than the mpx200! Is that realistic? @akarno the camera is below the external display. You can't see it in the video, but it's there :wink:
Guest peekie Posted June 2, 2004 Report Posted June 2, 2004 if everyone remembers the mpx220 was a rumour phone back in febuary now finally coming out . motorola don't care if the specs maybe lower than the e200 or similar as the mpx220 probably will be replaced by another version later this year ,if its better than the mpx200 they will be happy as the motorola will sell well ,remember the mpx200 was lessin specs than the e200 but sold well against that model , it comes down to choice in the end do you prefer the clamshell or the standard phone look it will be interesting to see which moto sells better the mpx100 or mpx220 :wink: :wink: :wink:
Guest kyrkesmith Posted June 2, 2004 Report Posted June 2, 2004 I disagree that it's likely to have specs less than E200. Why would the camera be the exception? From what we know so far, it doesn't seem like it's just going to be a phone that's a bit better than the MPx200, but a lot better.
Guest st3ph3n Posted June 2, 2004 Report Posted June 2, 2004 Any news on the motorola MPX series phones incorporating the RIM BlackBerry Connect software? Or can you already "push" emails without it? I like the blackberry functions but not their slab like design, and looking like a total plonker with one held to your ear.
Guest refnulf Posted June 3, 2004 Report Posted June 3, 2004 As far as I know, they're not going with blackberry but I could be mistaken. The mpx220 will not have less features than the e200, or even the mpx200. If not, what the hell are they releasing another phone then? I sure hope they won't be coming out with another updated version of the mpx220 once it's out a few months. That would be insane.
Guest Pondrew Posted June 3, 2004 Report Posted June 3, 2004 I don't agree refnulf, all Motorola HAVE to do with this new Smartphone release is improve upon their existing Smartphone the MPX200. The E200 is a competitors phone and although it may seem common sense to say they have to improve upon it's specs, in reality as long as they improve upon their own product they are delivering. The Motorola reputation will do the rest... Having said that, I'd be very surprised if the spec of this didn't blow away the E200 on almost all fronts. Maybe internal memory won't be one of them but that remains to be confirmed.
Guest Gears Posted June 3, 2004 Report Posted June 3, 2004 The test build of the OS on this has a dll that's registered on boot to display the battery meter, and obviously that radio stack isn't ready either, so I'm guessing a lot could change before we get one of these in our pockets. However, it DOES look very promising!
Guest Gears Posted June 3, 2004 Report Posted June 3, 2004 Well, it's a clamshell like the MPx200 so most of the time you'll find that the main colour screen isn't on - that in itself saves battery power.
Guest martin Posted June 3, 2004 Report Posted June 3, 2004 Speculation time :) I was trying make sense of the memory allocation so I did a bit of digging. The MPX200 we know about. MPX200: 32MB Flash ROM and 32MB SD RAM + SD MMC card (expandable up to 1GB) I got the MPX100 specification from the Motorola site MPX100: 64MB Flash ROM and 32MB SD RAM + Mini SD (up to 512MB) On a PPC forum the MPx is reported to have the same internal memory as the MPX100 64MB Flash ROM and 32MB SD RAM + SD MMC card (expandable up to 1GB) So my assumption is that the MPX220 again will be the same :? MPX220: 64MB Flash ROM and 32MB SD RAM + Mini SD (up to 512MB) If this is correct then I think it will increase the internal Program/file storage but then again I would still rather have 64MB RAM.
Guest Pondrew Posted June 3, 2004 Report Posted June 3, 2004 A logical deduction Martin. :) Sounds about right to me.
Guest DoctaPeppa Posted June 4, 2004 Report Posted June 4, 2004 Do we know who the carrier is going to be? Im dying to know.
Guest schriss Posted June 4, 2004 Report Posted June 4, 2004 martin: looks like you are correct, MPx220 has 3x less free memory than mine Mio 8390, but theere is 2x more of storage space. But I'd prefer more RAM than storage, we all have SD cards for that.
Guest martin Posted June 4, 2004 Report Posted June 4, 2004 martin: looks like you are correct, MPx220 has 3x less free memory than mine Mio 8390, but theere is 2x more of storage space. But I'd prefer more RAM than storage, we all have SD cards for that. Yeah more RAM would have been great but the 64MB Flash ROM is still a nice addition and should help to eliminate some of the problems that can be caused by filling up Storage (IPSM). I'm not sure what's taking up all the RAM though as the phone had just been switched on (Total memory=19.3MB, Available memory=7.64). If this is a pre-release model then maybe windows (and other applications) will still be streamlined to give optimum available memory. Will be interesting to see what what the networks do with it.
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