Guest nedge2k Posted November 3, 2006 Report Share Posted November 3, 2006 Just days after releasing their Excalibur unlocker, the guys over at IMEI-Check have done it again and released an unlocker for the Orange C700 / HTC MteoR (HTC Breeze)! :rolleyes: As with all IMEI-Check unlockers, this will not only remove the sim lock but also the CID lock. All for just £20. Grab yours HERE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Paul (MVP) Posted November 3, 2006 Report Share Posted November 3, 2006 Bizarre, since there's nobody selling locked Breeze's yet! :rolleyes: P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest pierre Posted November 3, 2006 Report Share Posted November 3, 2006 Bizarre, since there's nobody selling locked Breeze's yet! :rolleyes: P Orange Switzerland used to until a couple of weeks ago when they removed it from the shells, due to technical' issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MARKUKCOUK Posted November 3, 2006 Report Share Posted November 3, 2006 Nothing will stop these money grabbing scum. Support the community and wait for the free versions. *For those that don't know, this isn't just a "I'm not paying" - they purposely mislead other developers from creating free versions, even on this very site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 3, 2006 Report Share Posted November 3, 2006 Nothing will stop these money grabbing scum. Support the community and wait for the free versions. *For those that don't know, this isn't just a "I'm not paying" - they purposely mislead other developers from creating free versions, even on this very site. Look at it this way: I can buy a HTC S620 for 500 euro on expansys or I can get a new Dash on ebay for 300 unlock for 25 with imei and install a S620 ROM on it Saving of 175 euro! I don't see anything wrong with that. Why would a company give up the secret to their product/ service? makes no sence to me :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MARKUKCOUK Posted November 3, 2006 Report Share Posted November 3, 2006 Look at it this way: I can buy a HTC S620 for 500 euro on expansys or I can get a new Dash on ebay for 300 unlock for 25 with imei and install a S620 ROM on it Saving of 175 euro! I don't see anything wrong with that. Why would a company give up the secret to their product/ service? makes no sence to me :rolleyes: gerryr, your questions are valid and reasonable. Firstly, its not about giving up a secret. People from SPV Developers, and others, were posting thoughts and tips on Modaco. The owner of IMEI-Check joined the debate, but only to not only advise against the whole thought process, but to purposely point people in the wrong direction. This is not exactly well known, but the thread in question is linked to from the original C600 SPV Developers unlock program! As for the whole cost thing. Thats not the issue. I think £20 is a bit high, but that it their choice, and I accept that. But, my opinion, which is all my post is, is that although IMEI-Check is cheaper than the expansys route, morally, I find it unacceptable to support the cheaper alternative for the reasons I've mentioned. I think people should be made aware of the kind of people they are dealing with, and then allowed to make their own choices. I'll try and find the thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Paul (MVP) Posted November 3, 2006 Report Share Posted November 3, 2006 Nothing will stop these money grabbing scum. Support the community and wait for the free versions. Definitely unnecessary IMHO. Firstly, its not about giving up a secret. People from SPV Developers, and others, were posting thoughts and tips on Modaco. The owner of IMEI-Check joined the debate, but only to not only advise against the whole thought process, but to purposely point people in the wrong direction. This is not exactly well known, but the thread in question is linked to from the original C600 SPV Developers unlock program! I don't know if this is true or not... but what about the stickied threads on certain other forums trying to reverse engineer imei-checks work. Is that OK? P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MARKUKCOUK Posted November 3, 2006 Report Share Posted November 3, 2006 Definitely unnecessary IMHO. I don't know if this is true or not... but what about the stickied threads on certain other forums trying to reverse engineer imei-checks work. Is that OK? P Perhaps not, but since they hardly play fair, I don't think its anything they don't deserve. I'm not gonna condone it though, since its dropping down to their level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Paul (MVP) Posted November 3, 2006 Report Share Posted November 3, 2006 /me waits patiently for evidence of this 'money grabbing scum'... P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MARKUKCOUK Posted November 3, 2006 Report Share Posted November 3, 2006 /me waits patiently for evidence of this 'money grabbing scum'... P Well I'm sure any evidence is needed? Admittedly its badly worded, as I have no problem with them charging, just with what they have done in the past. Just scum will do then :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Paul (MVP) Posted November 3, 2006 Report Share Posted November 3, 2006 My only input was that a) I think such public personal attacks are completely unnecessary, but :rolleyes: I know Florin from imei-check personally and I know how much time (and money) he puts into making these unlocks available. P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MARKUKCOUK Posted November 3, 2006 Report Share Posted November 3, 2006 My only input was that a) I think such public personal attacks are completely unnecessary, but :rolleyes: I know Florin from imei-check personally and I know how much time (and money) he puts into making these unlocks available. P If I was too agressive then I apologise, but I feel its only right that people know what Florin did. I mean, what is your view on what happened (Admittedly a while ago now)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Paul (MVP) Posted November 3, 2006 Report Share Posted November 3, 2006 I'm still waiting for you to point me to 'the evidence', or at least what supposedly happened... what we have at the moment is a thread where you're consistently calling imei-check 'money-grabbing scum' or 'scum' without justification as to why. P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MARKUKCOUK Posted November 3, 2006 Report Share Posted November 3, 2006 (edited) I'm still waiting for you to point me to 'the evidence', or at least what supposedly happened... what we have at the moment is a thread where you're consistently calling imei-check 'money-grabbing scum' or 'scum' without justification as to why. P EDIT: Here are the links contained within SPV-Services from Zone-MR and the guys at SPV Developers http://www.modaco.com/index.php?showtopic=2640 http://www.modaco.com/index.php?showtopic=947 Edited November 3, 2006 by MARKUKCOUK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Paul (MVP) Posted November 3, 2006 Report Share Posted November 3, 2006 EDIT: Here are the links contained within SPV-Services from Zone-MR and the guys at SPV Developers http://www.modaco.com/index.php?showtopic=2640 http://www.modaco.com/index.php?showtopic=947 OK... so the first is a 4 year old link to a dicussion about linux on SPV, which Florin showed me running personally. The second is a 3 year old link to another discussion that, having read thru, I still don't get exactly what it is makes imei-check 'scum'. What's your point? P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MARKUKCOUK Posted November 3, 2006 Report Share Posted November 3, 2006 OK... so the first is a 4 year old link to a dicussion about linux on SPV, which Florin showed me running personally. The second is a 3 year old link to another discussion that, having read thru, I still don't get exactly what it is makes imei-check 'scum'. What's your point? P At several points, in both threads, florin overly agressively advises against touching the spv rom. Even by developers. Why would he do such a thing other than to protect himself? Sorry, it may be 3 years ago - and i did say it was a while ago - but as far as I'm concerned he was protecting his cost method, which is out of order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest awarner (MVP) Posted November 3, 2006 Report Share Posted November 3, 2006 Florin was the first to explore the ROM and at the time very few people had the ability and skill to hack the ROM without killing the device. I know Florin has himself killed devices while testing and developing his unlock solutions so his advice is valid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MARKUKCOUK Posted November 3, 2006 Report Share Posted November 3, 2006 Florin was the first to explore the ROM and at the time very few people had the ability and skill to hack the ROM without killing the device. I know Florin has himself killed devices while testing and developing his unlock solutions so his advice is valid. Then its a difference of opinion. I agree that the specific advice was valid, I feel he was far too forceful to come across as innocently looking after peoples interests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Paul (MVP) Posted November 3, 2006 Report Share Posted November 3, 2006 Still feel the 'money grabbing scum' comment was valid? P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest awarner (MVP) Posted November 3, 2006 Report Share Posted November 3, 2006 Have you taken into account that Florin does not have English as a first language? This can greatly affect the way a post is written. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 3, 2006 Report Share Posted November 3, 2006 if thats the height of your argument I honestly think your way off the mark (my opinion from a bystanders point of view) If a developer wanted to try it then they would go ahead and try it, they don't need his nod of approval. I thought he had given people incorrect code or instruction of how to do it thus leading people down the wrong path! Jez, people can make they're own mind as to whether they want to risk it or not. my 2p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest nedge2k Posted November 3, 2006 Report Share Posted November 3, 2006 Wow, a few years ago Florin, who couldn't speak English as well as he can now, offered some advice to potential developers which basically amounted to "don't screw with things you don't understand or you'll have a nice shiny paperweight" and suddenly he is scum. Right, ok. Now you, MARKUKCOUK, on the other hand like to make mountains out of molehills and constantly criticize people when it is not your place to do so. Usually using some kind of unnecessary verbal abuse too. Tell me, what exactly does that make you? I've known Florin for quite some time and yes, he may have been trying to protect one of his sources of income (who can blame him?) but he was also issuing a warning to those who knew very little about a very new platform. Do yourself a favour, keep your assumptions about people, your attacks and abuse to yourself and away from MoDaCo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MARKUKCOUK Posted November 3, 2006 Report Share Posted November 3, 2006 Wow, a few years ago Florin, who couldn't speak English as well as he can now, offered some advice to potential developers which basically amounted to "don't screw with things you don't understand or you'll have a nice shiny paperweight" and suddenly he is scum. Right, ok. Now you, MARKUKCOUK, on the other hand like to make mountains out of molehills and constantly criticize people when it is not your place to do so. Usually using some kind of unnecessary verbal abuse too. Tell me, what exactly does that make you? I've known Florin for quite some time and yes, he may have been trying to protect one of his sources of income (who can blame him?) but he was also issuing a warning to those who knew very little about a very new platform. Do yourself a favour, keep your assumptions about people, your attacks and abuse to yourself and away from MoDaCo. Now come on Nedge, everyone is entitled to their opinion, and I've already taken back the "money grabbing" comment as its not something I agree with. However, its my opinion, and how I've read both threads, and posts elsewhere that the "he may have been trying to protect one of his sources of income (who can blame him?) " part of your post is true, and although I may have been too abusive, I think its fair that people know what he is like, or at least have all the evidence to make their own opinion. Personally I don't think there is any place on Modaco for anyone trying to stop active development of any product to cover their income. Not like that. I'm sorry you disagree, but I really don't think I've been that out of order to be honest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bocsta Posted November 6, 2006 Report Share Posted November 6, 2006 (edited) Does anyone know if Florin is or was involved in the PS2 (Playstation 2 ) scene ? Edited November 6, 2006 by bocsta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Christopher Woods Posted November 7, 2006 Report Share Posted November 7, 2006 I know that while some people appreciate this service, it's a bit rich him asking for 20 quid - which is usually what the networks themselves charge. I also think it's a bit off expecting everyone to pay that much for what is essentially one use of a glorified keygen (simplifying a bit there, but it's not like he has to go and pay every network for each unlock, he'll have the algorhythm cracked and bingo: he enters the code into the app at his end which his first stage app provides to the customer on the locked device, and email back the right code to crack the lock). Fair play if he has to buy each device to test and build the cracks for, but for all I know once he's cracked the lock, he sells the device unlocked on ebay and makes his money back, then goes and makes x amount of pure profit for just generating unlock codes with the software he's written. when you have people who write unlock apps and give them out for free it's to me just a bit disrespectful towards a community (especially communities like xda-developers and spv-developers) whose members traditionally swap and provide info for free in the spirit of goodwill. Five quid for an unlock would be the right price. If there wasn't an alternative, ten quid would JUST be bearable. 20 quid is daylight robbery to me, and if that's his only source of income he should get a real job and pay tax like the rest of us. My 2p... And i know a lot of people feel the same way, especially on XDA-Developers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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